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Post by Andy on Jul 3, 2007 14:46:05 GMT 10
Is this a suggestion or a hint? both Who are you hinting to? Anyone form the club that may read the forum; or people on the forum, that there is a good chance of this happening? |
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Post by marinermick on Jul 3, 2007 14:49:26 GMT 10
Who are you hinting to? Anyone form the club that may read the forum; or people on the forum, that there is a good chance of this happening? no hinting here just think he would be a good replacement for o'grady if stringers is out all season |
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Jul 3, 2007 14:53:12 GMT 10
Who are you hinting to? Anyone form the club that may read the forum; or people on the forum, that there is a good chance of this happening? no hinting here just think he would be a good replacement for o'grady if stringers is out all season can we sign him as a replacement wihtout tearing up stringers' contract, or do the new rules on short-termers rule it out? |
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Post by dru on Jul 3, 2007 14:55:21 GMT 10
I think that the placing of footballers on a pedestal is an inherently dangerous practice, with a high chance of failure. I think it is inherently dangerous to place anyone on a pedestal without a proper harness  placing anyone as above the normal plebs is just setting them up for a fall. May I put this question to you; when do footballers stop being footballers and become normal citizens? Do Paul O'Grady and his teammates have to adhere to the FFA & CCMFC Code of Conduct 24/7? Do they have to think of the game, the club, our sponsors, our fans, etc, ALL OF THE TIME? You know what, sadly, I think that the general answer to the last two questions will be: YES. Most of us pull off a uniform or a job description when we get home from work, and it's disappointing that these professionals will always be known as "<insert team name> player <insert name>" when issues like this come up no matter if they were representing the club nor not. Pity sometimes this doesn't even go away after retirement. They should be treated the same as everyone else, if there is a clause in there contract fair enough otherwise it's a bit unfair, it's not intergral to there job so why sack them. |
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Post by marinermick on Jul 3, 2007 14:55:38 GMT 10
no hinting here just think he would be a good replacement for o'grady if stringers is out all season can we sign him as a replacement wihtout tearing up stringers' contract, or do the new rules on short-termers rule it out? only if our squad number drops to 15, and then for a minimum of seven weeks |
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Post by skilbeck on Jul 3, 2007 14:56:37 GMT 10
Why do the brainless, grog-addled media in this country put professional sportspeople on a pedestal? Why don't you look at teachers, PARENTS, doctors, dentists as your so-called role models? May I put this question to you; when do footballers stop being footballers and become normal citizens? Do Paul O'Grady and his teammates have to adhere to the FFA & CCMFC Code of Conduct 24/7? Do they have to think of the game, the club, our sponsors, our fans, etc, ALL OF THE TIME? You know what, sadly, I think that the general answer to the last two questions will be: YES. There are many different job types where ones career can be jeopardised by what they do in their own time especially if the action is criminal, and especially if the person is well known in the community. for example virtually every profession is like this including doctors, dentists and teachers. while drink driving first time is unlikely to cost any of these people their jobs, just as Paul O Grady is unlikely to lose his job, people in these careers have to be just as mindful of their actions in their own private time. my belief is that the action taken by the club against O Grady will probably be minimal and that its in the best interests of everyone involved to put this behind them. |
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Post by alicia on Jul 3, 2007 15:34:21 GMT 10
Why would they sack him when they renewed his contract after the DUI?
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Jul 3, 2007 15:59:09 GMT 10
Why would they sack him when they renewed his contract after the DUI?  drink driving is strict liability. you do it you're done. as soon as the blood test happened, they knew what the result would be. the charge and subsequent conviction is therefore not the issue. the issue is the injury. [as was pretty clearly alluded to in the original post - as offtheball said, no surprises there] the club indicated a willingness to stand by stringers during his rehabilitation, and clearly we didn't lose sponsors or interest as a result, the club has managed things very well, as has paul himself after the accident. no stupidity, no sonny bill or wes naiqama moments, just got his head down and worked on getting well it seems. now he's been unfortunate to need further surgery. the club's in a rough spot, especially if we meet the injury curse again, whereby it might be pragmatically the best thing to do to ditch him and sign eagleton instead. |
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Post by Trogdor on Jul 3, 2007 16:56:23 GMT 10
he wont get sacked...but if he ever does it again though...
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Post by Foriegnmariner on Jul 3, 2007 17:04:56 GMT 10
I don't believe he will be sacked. A huge reprimand is what he will be givin.
You can't blame media blow-up about this story because it hasn't been in the mainstream news or on any websites except mariners and A-League related forums.
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Post by offtheball on Jul 3, 2007 18:47:02 GMT 10
As Dibo says I wasn't for a second inferring that O'Grady should be sacked for the DUI, the club pretty well dealt with the inevitability of the finding three months ago.
But with such a short season if he misses half because of surgery, then a month to get back to fitness then a month to get off the bench. Maybe he should look at V4. We don't wan't another Mrdja situation, especially if Eagleton is available. Imagine Mori for Mrdja at the beginning of V2
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Post by Pete on Jul 4, 2007 3:41:12 GMT 10
I see most folks have been set right by the inference of offtheball's comments. The emphasis is on the injury.
Bloody hell, what did O'Grady do wrong? Was he playing table tennis or something?
We are lucky in one sense, to have Boogs now fit, and Vidmar and Wilko, in the centre defender's role. The return of Heff also bolsters the defence line. Clarkey can play centre defence too. Paul's height meant a fair bit for corner kicks and free kicks close to the goal - there aren't too many players taller than him.
IF Lawrie was to look for a replacement, and that's big if given the number of ready replacements, then it would be for a right side or centre defender. Boogs looked uncomfortable at right fullback, and we really only have Clark - and Porter at a pinch.
Anyone have an idea how he got the injury, or was it something that needs correcting after his car accident?
My reason for asking this, is whether Paul is going to be receiving pay while he is off - if it was an injury from training or a match then he's covered by insurance, right? If it was from the car accident he won't get paid for the time he's off, I suspect.
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Post by DJ on Jul 4, 2007 9:53:02 GMT 10
His injury needs surgery ASAP or it could lead to permanent damage in the future. The Op he needs will probably only see him out of action for 3 months (depending on his recovery time) so the sooner the better. He could play on with the injury but his personal health is more important of course.
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Post by marinermick on Jul 4, 2007 9:55:10 GMT 10
His injury needs surgery ASAP or it could lead to permanent damage in the future. The Op he needs will probably only see him out of action for 3 months (depending on his recovery time) so the sooner the better. He could play on with the injury but his personal health is more important of course. in that case he could be back by early october |
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Post by DJ on Jul 4, 2007 9:58:11 GMT 10
His injury needs surgery ASAP or it could lead to permanent damage in the future. The Op he needs will probably only see him out of action for 3 months (depending on his recovery time) so the sooner the better. He could play on with the injury but his personal health is more important of course. in that case he could be back by early october exactly - it's not a season ending injury as long as it's done soon, the sooner he has it the better..............the hard part for him if we are playing well is getting his spot back in the team. |
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Jul 4, 2007 11:04:09 GMT 10
in that case he could be back by early october exactly - it's not a season ending injury as long as it's done soon, the sooner he has it the better..............the hard part for him if we are playing well is getting his spot back in the team. in that case, sorry eags, we want the big man! |
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Post by clarence on Jul 4, 2007 12:18:46 GMT 10
in that case he could be back by early october exactly - it's not a season ending injury as long as it's done soon, the sooner he has it the better..............the hard part for him if we are playing well is getting his spot back in the team. When I saw the header for this thread I feared the worst. At least there's a good chance the player will get back onto the paddock within the season. If his health situation is at risk then it would be silly to hold it off any longer. I think the new rules about 15 fit players before a short term contract is offered is going to be hard for some teams, if they geta run of injuries in one area of the field positions but still have 17 or so fit players. Looks like Eagleton will stay in the lower leagues unless snapped up by someone. |
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Jul 4, 2007 12:43:30 GMT 10
exactly - it's not a season ending injury as long as it's done soon, the sooner he has it the better..............the hard part for him if we are playing well is getting his spot back in the team. When I saw the header for this thread I feared the worst. At least there's a good chance the player will get back onto the paddock within the season. If his health situation is at risk then it would be silly to hold it off any longer. I think the new rules about 15 fit players before a short term contract is offered is going to be hard for some teams, if they geta run of injuries in one area of the field positions but still have 17 or so fit players. Looks like Eagleton will stay in the lower leagues unless snapped up by someone. why aren't perth glory looking at him - capable reliable player who is a known quantity and demonstrably up to the standard of the a-league? oh, yeah... that's right... it's perth... |
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Post by RECKY on Jul 4, 2007 13:41:17 GMT 10
as much as I've appreciated O'grady's efforts for the team, I've lost family to a drunk driver, who didnt mean it either i might add, DUI is a crime and potentially fatal for themselves or the general public, as Paul has proven with his injuries. So he got off quite lightly i would think, I would have given him jail time....and yes the mongrel who killed my cousin got a slap on the wrist as well, so drunk drivers aint my favourite people, no excuses, its been illegal for at least 20 years so you got real lucky Paul, real lucky
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Post by Jesus on Jul 4, 2007 15:01:26 GMT 10
Why would they sack him when they renewed his contract after the DUI? It is possible his new contract had a clause related to the outcome of this situation. Has O'Grady been sentenced? Or is sentencing still to come? PS. Has this forum always had an in-built spell-check? If so how come the scummer trolls always spell every word wrong? IF not, I like it  |
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