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Post by offtheball on Mar 16, 2007 15:33:10 GMT 10
Great work finally from the council.
Putting in the odd amenities block is a hell of a lot cheaper than building new fields on non existent land.
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Mar 16, 2007 16:02:04 GMT 10
Great work finally from the council. Putting in the odd amenities block is a hell of a lot cheaper than building new fields on non existent land. why *finally*? i love bagging councils as much as the next guy (my local council are pretty special...) but i wouldn't go out of my way to give them a backhander when they get something right. this is the sort of thing that you don't go anywhere near a newspaper about until you've been working on it for ages and you're not likely to have egg on your face. public officials don't put out a press release everytime they have some brainfart. this indicates that they've been working on it for a long time, and if it works, they might be able to apply it elsewhere. |
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Post by offtheball on Mar 16, 2007 18:35:21 GMT 10
Great work finally from the council. Putting in the odd amenities block is a hell of a lot cheaper than building new fields on non existent land. why *finally*? i love bagging councils as much as the next guy (my local council are pretty special...) but i wouldn't go out of my way to give them a backhander when they get something right. this is the sort of thing that you don't go anywhere near a newspaper about until you've been working on it for ages and you're not likely to have egg on your face. public officials don't put out a press release everytime they have some brainfart. this indicates that they've been working on it for a long time, and if it works, they might be able to apply it elsewhere. "Finally" is very appropriate. They got it wrong for ten to fifteen years. The horse has bolted in regards to providing appropriate infrastructue to cater for the population growth that they have condoned. So they are now looking for the cheap fix, which I applaud, for their alternative plan was no fix at all The curious thing is this is basically a fix of an inadequate number of grounds. Councils decision to curb the use of grounds and ban pre-season training was because of the drought. There has been no change to that. |
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Mar 16, 2007 19:27:09 GMT 10
why *finally*? i love bagging councils as much as the next guy (my local council are pretty special...) but i wouldn't go out of my way to give them a backhander when they get something right. this is the sort of thing that you don't go anywhere near a newspaper about until you've been working on it for ages and you're not likely to have egg on your face. public officials don't put out a press release everytime they have some brainfart. this indicates that they've been working on it for a long time, and if it works, they might be able to apply it elsewhere. "Finally" is very appropriate. They got it wrong for ten to fifteen years. The horse has bolted in regards to providing appropriate infrastructue to cater for the population growth that they have condoned. So they are now looking for the cheap fix, which I applaud, for their alternative plan was no fix at all The curious thing is this is basically a fix of an inadequate number of grounds. Councils decision to curb the use of grounds and ban pre-season training was because of the drought. There has been no change to that. hang on a sec - what's the alternative solution. it's very easy to say council hasn't done the right thing, what should they have done? put up the house full sign at kariong so no more may enter? build sporting fields on non-existent grounds? spend lots of money on water tanks ten years ago (i.e. before we were in crippling drought)? it's very easy to whinge, and be an expert after the fact, but it's not helpful in the slightest. it's just as unhelpful to give backhanders when real solutions are proposed. councils aren't wizards, seeing deep into the future and covering against all eventualities with their unlimited pot of money. so don't expect them to be. |
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Post by offtheball on Mar 16, 2007 21:46:22 GMT 10
I wasn't whinging actually, I was giving them a wrap for their belated action.
Nothing to do with predicting and planning for droughts.
The local government is elected to look after its constituents and plan for the future. They haven't done it.
Ovals, Marinas, fast ferries, City bypass, City redevelopment, hospital precinct, lots of talk but what have they done in the past 20 years?
Good on em for stitching up a deal with Erina High School. Hope they have the same plans for Narara Valley High, Gosford High, Lisarow High and whatever schools have suitable grounds on the peninsula.
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Post by shelleybeach on Mar 16, 2007 21:54:45 GMT 10
good call dibo, as much as i like bagging out governments of all colours, the local councils have had population growth forced on them through immigration (federal) and planning (state gov) at the same time as central government funding for infrastructure has fallen rapidly in real terms. the coast's council's have the additional burden of trying to provide services for a massive area, which has a varied and rough topography with lots of suburbs spread around water, ridges, wetlands - it's a lot easier to set aside land for open space at say Fairfield than around Brisbane water.
having said that, there is a huge swathe of land between Tuggerah and Wyong (pioneer dairy area) that could be used to provide a massive number of pitches though drainage would need sorting (too much water, but this could be stored somehow) - for those ex-pat englishmen on here, think of something like Hackney Marshes in London where there must be at least 50 pitches. the coast could become a football heartland!
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Post by LeedsMariner#4 on Mar 17, 2007 11:10:38 GMT 10
i think the idea is a great one!
make use of the schools grounds but doesnt ruin their fields (hopefully)
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Post by mariners4ever on Mar 17, 2007 12:12:00 GMT 10
IMO they should have regular season fixtures at high schools like lisarow, gosford and narara as they are good grounds especially lisarow.
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Post by LeedsMariner#4 on Mar 17, 2007 12:50:17 GMT 10
with the council working with the schools you could add woy woy and umina high to that list. they are not great now, but if they were returfed and looked after they would be good grounds to play on
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Post by Andy on Mar 17, 2007 14:12:07 GMT 10
Let's hope it is successful, and the council deicdes to implement it to ohter Central Coast schools.
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Post by Andy on Mar 17, 2007 14:14:04 GMT 10
with the council working with the schools you could add woy woy and umina high to that list. they are not great now, but if they were returfed and looked after they would be good grounds to play on I Don't think Umina High would need a lot of work IMO. The oval there is no where near as bad as Woy Woy's. Also there isn't as much room at Umina, compared to other places, so I if the council were to loook upgrading school ovals, Umina wouldn't be top priority. |
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Post by LeedsMariner#4 on Mar 17, 2007 15:43:55 GMT 10
i think the council should be looking at doing this to as many schools as possible.
generally high school grounds are larger than primary schools grounds, therefore on the peninsula only really umina and woy woy high are practical.
there is a lot of clubs that would look to utilise the grounds- SEU, umina and woy woy football. umina and woy woy rugby league etc etc
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Post by Jesus on Mar 17, 2007 15:58:02 GMT 10
has to be agreed to by the schools as well. and the Department. As well as the necessary funding from council. Hopefully they can extend this. But may take time
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Post by LeedsMariner#4 on Mar 17, 2007 16:10:24 GMT 10
between the council and the DET this may not happen in our lifetime!
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Post by mariners4ever on Mar 18, 2007 9:51:34 GMT 10
well as far as i know there is teams training at lisarow high school and narara valley high school
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Post by Jesus on Mar 18, 2007 11:29:44 GMT 10
i think it wil be expanded. But will take time to sort out. Is a good sign
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Post by Andy on Mar 18, 2007 11:36:11 GMT 10
well as far as i know there is teams training at lisarow high school and narara valley high school Also, there were trials played at Woy Woy High yesterday. |
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Post by pommypete on Mar 18, 2007 17:42:45 GMT 10
Why install water tanks at all the sports field when they already have water bores installed.The council in their wisdom have,after spending who knows what to have them installed,decided not to use them.With the drought at the stage it is at,it is thought the perception of sports field being watered would be a waste of water regardless that the fact that it is bore water.
I suggest we as players will miss more games this season not because of weather,wet or dry,but the lack of grounds and the increased number of teams,but hey! as long as the association get more money off us for less game time ,who are we to complain.
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Post by LeedsMariner#4 on Mar 18, 2007 17:52:17 GMT 10
do they have bore water at all grounds? i wasnt under the impression that they did
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Post by Jesus on Mar 18, 2007 20:30:13 GMT 10
i did not think so
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