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Post by bobandbill on May 2, 2007 22:00:02 GMT 10
My school seems to be mostly PC - most schools are.
The few Macs in my school are terrible as they are outdated and all - most days you can't save work on them even!
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Post by MrCelery on May 2, 2007 22:00:43 GMT 10
Now, now .... we should have just stuck with CP/M and avoided all this! :-) In the end just use what you like - just like football, it's all down to personal choice. I prefer the cheaper, less flashy, more successful PC. A bit like the Jets v CCM really! |
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Post by brett on May 2, 2007 23:05:23 GMT 10
No Mac viruses? Bollocks! ;D Rarer than Windows viruses to be sure, but they still exist. Also, viruses are vastly overhyped. I've been in the computer industry since black screens with green text, and I've yet to suffer a virus that has done damage. Well, which is it? Claim that macs aren't exempt from viruses or claim that viruses aren't harmful? I like your football analogy though. Remember that Sydney and Newcastle got bigger crowds than the Mariners last year. In many ways, the masses need to be educated! |
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Post by brett on May 2, 2007 23:08:05 GMT 10
I should point out that I'm just having fun by poking fun. I am not one of those defend my computer/video game/car manufacturer til death types (except maybe with football). A few months ago I would have claimed PC was king because I knew nothing about Macs. Only recently have I been exposed to a Mac at work and I make this post from a PC at home. Pretty unbiased position to cast judgement from.
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Post by MrCelery on May 3, 2007 0:54:05 GMT 10
I should point out that I'm just having fun by poking fun. I am not one of those defend my computer/video game/car manufacturer til death types (except maybe with football). A few months ago I would have claimed PC was king because I knew nothing about Macs. Only recently have I been exposed to a Mac at work and I make this post from a PC at home. Pretty unbiased position to cast judgement from. Me too - just having a laugh! I'm not a rabid Mac hater either. They did invent the GUI interface and mouse after all. I can still remember attending a computer open day at Newcastle Uni and seeing it for the first time, and thinking 'Wow' this is cool! That 'wow factor' is what got me to follow a computer career (that and my trusty Atari XL!). I did my research and very nearly bought a Mac as my first 'real' PC, but the fact that it had only about three bits of software, compared to hundreds for the PC is what won me to the 'dark side'. My two closest friends have Macs, so I know a bit about them. But I've seen nothing yet to regret my decision. One is a recent convert to the Mac (got one free from his brother), but even he moans about their limitations, while praising their OS. Mick might have it right in that Macs are especially good for some multimedia and music. But if you are more into business software, online communications and gaming like me, the PC has the edge. But Dibo is right in that the cross-platform support of key applications is blurring the difference in some areas. making Mac v PC a silly arguement. |
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Post by brett on May 3, 2007 10:37:57 GMT 10
Nail on the head re Multimedia/Music vs Online Comms and gaming. The big decider is what you want to do with it.
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Post by Rowdy on May 4, 2007 0:21:20 GMT 10
I used to be satidfied with my VIC-20 until i started having problems when using this forum.
Since upgrading to the Commodore-64, lifes sweet. ;D
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Post by Adz on May 4, 2007 0:29:14 GMT 10
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Post by Rowdy on May 4, 2007 0:36:16 GMT 10
Chick in the background has her ipod nano (given to her as a complimentary gift after being abducted by aliens) stashed in the fruit bowl next to her.
Says to herself, "Fcuk you & ur silly big box"
mod. "& my nano vibrates" (new model which has just been reversed engineered and due to be realeased for Mothers Day.)
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Post by ~Floss~ on May 4, 2007 1:14:48 GMT 10
Like most others have siad, i don't want to be seen as sticking up for a brand, I had to hold back from saying something very similar when i first read this thread and no-one was game to reply.  BUT... Until i got mac i had the same reservations as all the others on here who have never owned one. I ended up buying one because a particular piece of software i needed was - at the time - not yet available on PC. I have only found one piece of software that i cannot get for mac OS (MS access). BUT, as stated on here, you can actually run Windows and Mac OS simultaneously on a mac, and get around it that way. Everything else (Adobe photoshop, illustrator, acrobat, Macromedia flash, etc) actually run better on mac OS. Plus, the original reason i think this discussion was raised, was the easiest way to fix the PC home network issues would be to ditch the PC, get a mac, plug it in, and it will work. That's been my experience. My home network is a mixture of macs and pcs. I use several networks at work, most PC and one UNIX. By far the most problems are with the PCs, and they are the hardest to resolve. I have found that i am in the minority on this issue, and i'm not out to convert anyone. Each to their own. I was once afraid of 'the other side' but now know there is a much simpler way. Anyway, hope you were able to find some useful help with your networking problem (as opposed to off-topic banter)  |
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Post by ~Floss~ on May 4, 2007 1:17:17 GMT 10
PS nice Ad, Adz. I know the chick's thinking how "with-it" and fashion-concious mac users are.  |
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Post by marinermick on May 4, 2007 8:51:27 GMT 10
I used to be satidfied with my VIC-20 until i started having problems when using this forum. Since upgrading to the Commodore-64, lifes sweet. ;D ahhhh, Summer Games memories |
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Post by ~Floss~ on May 4, 2007 23:42:05 GMT 10
Jordan vs. Bird, Sk8 or Die.... ON CASSETTE TAPE!
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on May 5, 2007 9:58:43 GMT 10
Jordan vs. Bird, Sk8 or Die.... ON CASSETTE TAPE! if you guys are talking about anything more advanced than rivr raid on the atari 2600, i'm afraid you've gone way past me...   awesome! |
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Post by Pete on May 6, 2007 12:17:41 GMT 10
I should point out that I'm just having fun by poking fun. I am not one of those defend my computer/video game/car manufacturer til death types (except maybe with football). A few months ago I would have claimed PC was king because I knew nothing about Macs. Only recently have I been exposed to a Mac at work and I make this post from a PC at home. Pretty unbiased position to cast judgement from. Me too - just having a laugh! I'm not a rabid Mac hater either. They did invent the GUI interface and mouse after all. I can still remember attending a computer open day at Newcastle Uni and seeing it for the first time, and thinking 'Wow' this is cool! That 'wow factor' is what got me to follow a computer career (that and my trusty Atari XL!). I did my research and very nearly bought a Mac as my first 'real' PC, but the fact that it had only about three bits of software, compared to hundreds for the PC is what won me to the 'dark side'. My two closest friends have Macs, so I know a bit about them. But I've seen nothing yet to regret my decision. One is a recent convert to the Mac (got one free from his brother), but even he moans about their limitations, while praising their OS. Mick might have it right in that Macs are especially good for some multimedia and music. But if you are more into business software, online communications and gaming like me, the PC has the edge. But Dibo is right in that the cross-platform support of key applications is blurring the difference in some areas. making Mac v PC a silly arguement. Pretty much the way I feel about brand/platform/OS loyalty and all. Mr. Celery, would you mind if I correct you about the historic point you made above? I had an interesting conversation with a fellow I work with who once had a career in IT in the days that it was all command prompted. He told me the story of Xerox and their innovations in business equipment and communications long before the advent of Apple and Windows (e.g. they had their own intranet in the early 70s connecting all their offices worldwide and could assign work from one office to another around the other side of the globe, also could send what we now know as email to work associates). One of their patented inventions was the mouse and they also had a pretty nifty GUI. They did not take Apple to task when Apple first started using these innovations but when Apple started suing Microsoft, Xerox tried to sue Apple but was statute barred. Do a check on Wikipedia under Apple vs. Microsoft, and Xerox Star, and PARC Labs. for the full story. In music and multimedia applications it has long been the case that Apple had the field covered. Their OS and hardware gave better latency times and the major recording and editing software was based upon working with a Mac primarily, then a PC secondly. However, Apple now run Intel processors, there is very much (as previously mentioned) a greying of the demarcation between the two platforms in recent years. I know that in music production there's the annoying thing where, as an amateur or budding musician, the first computer you will get is a PC. If you happen to buy recording and mastering software that's not used by Macs in professional studios, and mastering suites, you then have to relearn how to do it all over again to get back the same amount of production control that you enjoyed at home. You have to be careful when buying recording software, and make sure that what you buy for the PC at home is also widely used in professional situations if you want to avoid this. Or at least get a Lite version of the professional standard. |
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Post by Adz on May 9, 2007 13:31:14 GMT 10
You could always try linux ...  |
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Post by MrCelery on May 10, 2007 14:50:18 GMT 10
[Mr. Celery, would you mind if I correct you about the historic point you made above? I had an interesting conversation with a fellow I work with who once had a career in IT in the days that it was all command prompted. He told me the story of Xerox and their innovations in business equipment and communications long before the advent of Apple and Windows. One of their patented inventions was the mouse and they also had a pretty nifty GUI. Happy to stand corrected. I only based my statement on very weak research, eg. It was the first time I'd seen these innovations. I thus withdraw even further, my respect for Apple! ;D |
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Post by MrCelery on May 10, 2007 14:53:43 GMT 10
And what's with a one button mouse? Says a lot about the average dexterity\intellegence of Apple users. They're all numb nuts!
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Post by ~Floss~ on May 10, 2007 19:06:55 GMT 10
Mouses are so 1990's anyway.
Track-pads & hot-keys all the way.
(until voice-recognition or some sort of mind-control take over)
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Post by Pete on May 12, 2007 15:42:41 GMT 10
[Mr. Celery, would you mind if I correct you about the historic point you made above? I had an interesting conversation with a fellow I work with who once had a career in IT in the days that it was all command prompted. He told me the story of Xerox and their innovations in business equipment and communications long before the advent of Apple and Windows. One of their patented inventions was the mouse and they also had a pretty nifty GUI. Happy to stand corrected. I only based my statement on very weak research, eg. It was the first time I'd seen these innovations. I thus withdraw even further, my respect for Apple! ;D No need to do that Mr. Celery. From what Michael told me, Xerox seemed to be very much into all inhouse applications and only leased the technology to their clients. That way Xerox always had the intellectual patents to themselves, they had control over how it was used, and what type of hardware/software was used. In that sort of environment, Xerox had some wondeful ideas go to waste just serving Xerox's own purpose. Apple, however, used the ideas for use in a personal computer and had the vision to just sell the product rather than lease it on a rental arrangement to their client (like Xerox). Apple took these inventions and showed everyone the full potential of these ideas. Xerox would never had done that, and these things would have only ever served a large inhouse mainframe computer network if Apple hadn't seen the broader use potential. |
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