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Post by MrCelery on May 19, 2005 21:15:14 GMT 10
I believe there were two major supporters groups at the Spirit. One was 'The Bob Standers'? The other was something about the MacCarthy Stand?
Are these the right names, spellings?
Please explain...
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Post by MarinatorMum on May 19, 2005 23:13:05 GMT 10
I believe there were two major supporters groups at the Spirit. One was 'The Bob Standers'? The other was something about the MacCarthy Stand? Are these the right names, spellings? Please explain... From the many times that i went down to nso, all the loud supporters dressed in spirit gear, congregated in the Bob Stand, I think you find the marcarthy stand was either the opposition or could have been the more expensive seating, but bob stand was the equivalent of our bay 16 |
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Post by Footballer on May 19, 2005 23:27:56 GMT 10
Yeh there were two supporters groups who congregated literally at opposite ends of the ground.
Basically the bobstand was all about flags, drums and alike.
Those in the MaCartney stand (the macs) were more your english style of supporters, no big flags whistles or hoo haa.
Both groups never got along infact I think it came to blows a number of times believe it or not even though they both supported the same team!
I have more respect for the macs as the group still managed to pull together a couple of hundred vocal supporters even towards the last couple of dim years at NSO.
While the Bobstand, I kid you not went anywhere from 600+ to about 20.
A lot of the boys in Bay 14 last Sunday were Macs.
That's my basic understanding of it. Im sure there are more in's and outs of the story others may be able to add.
So if you ever hear the 'still hate the bobstand' chant go up you'll know why!
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Post by marinerbhoy on May 19, 2005 23:41:12 GMT 10
there was one bloke called jf who destroyed the bobstand. he was a total wanker. not liked my many
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Post by blackadder on May 20, 2005 8:49:34 GMT 10
Ahhh yes the Bob Stand vs Mac Terrace ..ahhh memories  Was a Bob Stander from the very beginning and while the way we supported the team may have not been everyones cup of tea, the most important thing is we all supported the same team. As for JF, well no doubt he is passionate in his support of teams, just has the ability to get people offside with his ideas etc |
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Post by FergieIsBlue on May 20, 2005 10:00:26 GMT 10
Yeah, both Bob Stand and Mac Stand supported the Spirit...as people have said, Bob Stand was more about the accessories and Mac Stand more about drunken singing...
The away support quite often drifted into the Mac Stand without knowing what they were in for...esp Glory fans...
(respect to Glory fans btw - about twenty ended up in the Mac Stand for a game that I remember - surrounded by close to 300 fully drilled singers, they gave as good as they got!!)
And there was distinct rivalry between the two camps, which was sorta fun...
"Still Hate The Bob Stand!"
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Post by MrCelery on May 20, 2005 11:06:17 GMT 10
As for JF, well no doubt he is passionate in his support of teams, just has the ability to get people offside with his ideas etc As a Newcastle Breakers fan I know this guy well. He was booted out of the Rowdies for being a bit 'odd'. No doubt passionate, but somehow had a knack of rubbing people up the wrong way to the point that they wanted to thump him. I wonder where\if he will tunr up to support the A-League, or if he will stick to waving a big flag at the Swans. |
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Post by marinermick on May 20, 2005 11:28:19 GMT 10
JF will be following Sydney FC as is a regular participant on their forum
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Post by kevrenor on May 20, 2005 17:53:23 GMT 10
I believe there were two major supporters groups at the Spirit. One was 'The Bob Standers'? The other was something about the MacCarthy Stand? Are these the right names, spellings? Please explain... Originally JF and I met with Remo Nogorotto on behalf of the fans on the Spirit list (we had the free time on the day) and we inspected the NSO ground - decided the old Bob Stand from the SCG was the go! The club identified it as Spirit Point - name never stuck! JF went to Canada, and I got sick with something akin to pnuemonia (not helped by a night on Rowdies Hill at Breakers Stadium) and didn't make the first 2 games, but the 3rd was magic! The Bob Stand was rockin, all standing, singing, waving their arms - some of the photos you would think it was overseas! (BTW What ever happened to the Chi Chi Mendez loving, football head wearing, Umina boys?) Gradually the crap football told, and the bandwaggoners left. At this point at the end of season 2 - JF returned and tried to make it into what he had in mind. The hard core Bay 23'ers and UK fans had been leaking to the other end to the McCartney Stand. They then flooded to the terrace there! The craziest thing was that one year some of the guys that ended in the Macs were standing guard at Belmore over all the fans, the next they were singing 'we still hate the Bob stand' at their own fans away at Belmore! By season 6, the two groups were down to a dozen or so each at Pittwater Park, and shared the 'beer-barrow' BTW the good thing about the NSO was that there were other groups. The family hill worked well for a while, there was the 'bus stop' stand, etc. There are some lessons in all that for us! I have hope, but beware ... let us see how we are in Season 3! |
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Post by Ursus on May 21, 2005 8:39:34 GMT 10
I started following Spirit after season 2 and was told the Bob Stand was the place to be. I found it to be vocal but full of teeny boppers who were interested in making a lot of noise usually puerile with not much relation as to what was going on on the pitch. After drifting all round the park I finished up getting a beer shower amongst the Macs one night and found a home. The singing was tight, relevant and fun and the crowd around understood football. The singing was regular rather than continuous but was used very effectively in lifting the team when needed. The rivallry between the Bobs and the Macs was not hate nor violent and as was stated before the 2 groups shared space amicably (side by side) and the barrow in the final season at Pitwater. I do not believe the rivalry was detrimental and in fact allowed groups for 2 different kinds of supporters and controlled both ends of the ground. What killed Spirit was a season of Hickman's lack lustre football, it drove fans to sleep. If Lawrie had come a season earlier Spirit would not have died the way it did. What can we learn? My couple of suggestions are; 1) Try and find a strong voiced leader with at least half a brain to pick and lead the songs. Timing is everything, after a while continuous, pointless singing loses its effectiveness. 2) Let's try and get some specific songs for different happenings eg the start, the finish, when a goal is scored, when defence is needed to keep a 1 goal lead with 10 min to go. 3) We need some form of sound board overhead so we can project the sound, hear it ourselves and have some shade in summer. Points 1 and 2 can be guided but not forced and hopefully will just happen like the name "Marinators". Our style will not be the same as anyone elses but will evolve over time. We have a much more solid base upon which to build than Spirit ever had. ps Auburnmariner, I like "The Submarine" Marinator Mum, Bay 16 is much mor intelligent than the Bob Stand ever was. "Still hate the Bob Stand, Still......  |
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Post by sumo on May 21, 2005 15:36:45 GMT 10
As a Newcastle Breakers fan I know this guy well. He was booted out of the Rowdies for being a bit 'odd'. No doubt passionate, but somehow had a knack of rubbing people up the wrong way to the point that they wanted to thump him. I wonder where\if he will tunr up to support the A-League, or if he will stick to waving a big flag at the Swans. So that's why he went to Marconi. |
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Post by marinerbhoy on May 27, 2005 22:37:19 GMT 10
hopefully stick to waving flags at the swans. seriously he will quickly cause much trouble amongst sydfc supporters. the man has no clue. i like flags, visually they are cool, i had one made for the spirit, but there is a line.
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Post by omni on May 27, 2005 22:43:25 GMT 10
I agree to a sound board idea, I was sitting next to the away bench (traitor but it was where they positioned me) and the sound from the Marinators was undeciferable. I know that when I was with you guys I could hear the songs so something must be happening in the air, trap that sound down so it goes through the stadium instead of up. Don't know if we'll be allowed though, maybe we need makeshift megaphones.
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Post by striker9 on May 31, 2005 12:09:01 GMT 10
I believe there were two major supporters groups at the Spirit. One was 'The Bob Standers'? The other was something about the MacCarthy Stand? Are these the right names, spellings?... Yep .... I still hate the Bob Stand! |
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