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Post by jollyroger on Sept 19, 2006 23:19:24 GMT 10
guest players on these short term holiday stints do nothing but devalue our league. What are they doing in newcastle entertaining the idea of getting collymore who hasnt played for five years. Id be ashamed if i was a newcastle supporter.
And whats with Romario & Carbone for Adelaide and Sydney. Surely we are are not that hard up for crowd numbers that we should resort to this kind of thing.
In my opinion the following should never happen again in Australian Football;
1) Guest players should not be considered by any clubs as i believe they devalue the league and Australian Football generally.
2) An Australian national team should never play a touring club side (like Man United several years ago) for the same reasons above.
We need to grow up.
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Post by Perm on Sept 20, 2006 0:03:23 GMT 10
im starting to think so with the guest players. its not the approach to get fans.
a purchase such as Milton Rodriguez is the right way to go i say, a season or two in him and can provide entertaining football... but four matches or a month stint with some holiday maker? for a large sum of money? i dont know, it seems like the dark old days.
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Post by omni on Sept 20, 2006 0:09:21 GMT 10
I think in some ways guest players can be good, Kazu was great last year, but players ike Collymore are simpy not good enough. I think it's a good way of getting players to try Australia for a little while and then maybe come play later on. The FFA know who is ideal and won't allow rubbish players to come in, I'd love to see H. Kewell do a guest appearance for anyone except scumcastle while he's in the country, but I don't think it will happen. We're not the Premiership we're a new league and need to grow.
A for number two, I don't think it will ever happen again, now that we're in Asia, fact is we can't even beat Kuwait let alone Manchester United.
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Post by jollyroger on Sept 20, 2006 8:34:45 GMT 10
Kazu would be an exception to the rule. His appointment was strategic in that it established a connection between the Japanese public and Sydney FC when the world club championships were held in Japan last year. This was clever by Sydney FC and probably did wonders for their merchandise sales in Japan during the tournament
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Post by brett on Sept 20, 2006 18:55:34 GMT 10
Kazu would be an exception to the rule. His appointment was strategic in that it established a connection between the Japanese public and Sydney FC when the world club championships were held in Japan last year. This was clever by Sydney FC and probably did wonders for their merchandise sales in Japan during the tournament I think in the big, wide football world there are plenty of exceptions to this rule and the guest player rule is one worth keeping. I can think of a couple of scenarios that could bring current Socceroos back for short stints. More Kazu-esque signings can take us closer to Asia. And some top players that are just finishing up their careers may want to make a few last-ditch dollars playing in a beautiful place like Australia, and if they are good enough to play football above the current level and famous enough to put enough bums on seats to cover their pay cheque then I say good on them (think Alan Shearer-type players). The FFA does though need to keep a tight grip on who comes out, dealing case by case to check to their satisfaction whether the player would promote (Yorke) or embarass (Deane) the league. |
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Post by Fish on Sept 20, 2006 21:58:49 GMT 10
I like the idea personally and see the right players drawing an increase in crowds definately but only if they are quality players which I think Carbone and Romario certainly are.I think clubs and the FFA are a lot more mindful of the publics perception of the signings and want to make sure we dont have a repeat of Nicola Berti and a few others that have come to pick up a pay cheque.Our league isnt big enough yet to support the likes of Bergkamp and Sheraer but the few that have been toued about are an upward step(well maybe except Collymore)
Given time Im sure there will be big European experienced plars gracing our shores.
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Post by Perm on Sept 20, 2006 22:18:23 GMT 10
FFA vetoed against the whole Collymore thing. its not happening.
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Post by Fish on Sept 20, 2006 22:21:58 GMT 10
Constantine was on SBS tonight saying how unfair it is and most Aussie sporting stars have chequered private lives and if that was the case wed ommit a majority of athletes.WANKER
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Post by gialloblu on Sept 20, 2006 22:58:53 GMT 10
Did the FFA rule him out because of his private life, or was he deemed unsuitable on the field [not having played competitively for years etc]?
If its his private life, Constantine's kinda got a point. Not at all condoning him hitting his girlfriend, but by that criteria there'd be a lot of people ruled out of professional sport in Australia. As far as I'm aware the other stuff he's been involved in has been with consenting adults...
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Post by gialloblu on Sept 20, 2006 23:07:50 GMT 10
With the guest player thing in general, its not a bad move in moderation, if the players are suitable [judged by their on-field exploits  ], they draw crowds, clubs don't pay over the odds for them and the guest players help the development of young up and coming players [imagine being a young player at Adelaide training with Romario. You'd learn lots of new techniques]. What I'd hate to see would be something like the North American Soccer League of the late 70s. Players of the calibre of Pele and Best went there at the end of their careers, and the league was massive for a few years. But the NASL did very little to foster young American talent, creating a more sustainable domestic league. The NASL was as much a travelling carnival as a football league. Guest [and imported] players have a role, but its important that they're not in the league at the expense of developing local players |
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Post by brett on Sept 20, 2006 23:33:14 GMT 10
Did the FFA rule him out because of his private life, or was he deemed unsuitable on the field [not having played competitively for years etc]? I saw an interview with Matt Carroll. It was essentially both on-field and off. They had no idea if he'd played in the last year to five years, and his image didn't represent the ideal image of the A-League. Fair enough. |
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Post by marinermick on Sept 21, 2006 11:07:32 GMT 10
Did the FFA rule him out because of his private life, or was he deemed unsuitable on the field [not having played competitively for years etc]? I saw an interview with Matt Carroll. It was essentially both on-field and off. They had no idea if he'd played in the last year to five years, and his image didn't represent the ideal image of the A-League. Fair enough. In that case Paulo Di Canio didn't stand a chance |
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], they draw crowds, clubs don't pay over the odds for them and the guest players help the development of young up and coming players [imagine being a young player at Adelaide training with Romario. You'd learn lots of new techniques].
