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Post by MsCanada on Aug 23, 2005 23:00:04 GMT 10
o god you're one of these forrest gump types!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by omni on Aug 23, 2005 23:03:15 GMT 10
I don't even begin to epitomise the dark side of running (Ultra Marathons)
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Post by DJ on Aug 24, 2005 8:50:53 GMT 10
o god you're one of these forrest gump types!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol - maybe we should adopt that as omni's new nickname!
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Post by marinermick on Aug 24, 2005 9:45:37 GMT 10
run omni run
agree he is partially mutant to run that distance
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Post by Rubbernose on Aug 24, 2005 10:49:09 GMT 10
Following on from the conversation in a different thread about what we can do to get crowd numbers up and promote the club, this is something I've had on my mind for a while. As a group, we have lots of enthusiastic numbers and people with knowhow in many different fields. I think it's worth exploring ways we can put this 'power', 'usefulness' or 'influence,' whatever you want to call it, towards helping the club in some way. One way that seems OK to me would be a small 'fanzine' that we could put together before each home game. I'm just thinking an 8 page pamphlet type thing just with the information about the next home game, an A-League ladder, a player profile with some interesting facts etc. Im thinking very light material, so that a 10 year old would be able to pick it up as well as an adult. It's purpose would be to inform, to bring the club to the people, to help them learn the players names and make all the relevant information easily available for those uninitiated. With the poor marketing effort from the FFA and the clubs financial restrictions, i sense a barrier that needs to be broken down for coasties to accept and embrace the club. putting the club in peoples face without them having to make the first move by searching a website or going to a match is the way to break the barrier down. anyway i could go on forever but this thread isnt about planning a fanzine it's about people's general thoughts about putting ourselves to the mariners cause in some way, and the best way to do it. if you think bums on seats is enough support then i reckon your entitled to that. i know fish thinks this is a good idea, what the rest of you think? I think it's a good idea in principle, although as others have commented, you don't want to step on the FFA's, or more so the club's toes, either legally or ethically. I see no reason why there couldn't be some kind of printed material made available, via us, if it doesn't step on the toes of anything the Mariners may have planned in this regard, to supplement FFA match-day programs, even distributed away from the stadium if need be. Is it at all possible something could be done on behalf of the Marinators, in conjunction with, even financially aided by the Mariners? Otherwise, when MarinerMick was asking for ideas as a promotional tool for Marinator sponsors, this type of thing was the first thing that popped into my head. Just thinking out loud, but perhaps this type of thing could be done under the guise as purely a Marinators promotional piece, which of course would also serve to, and mean to, promote the club whilst we're at it. Without actually going as far as selling ad-space or having a cover charge, costs for producing an actual 8 page or so magazine style, professionally printed and bound material - no matter how cheap you aim for - would be quite significant, probably prohibitive and probably nowhere near worth it, particularly without support of the club. However, we could keep it very simple, and as Marinators still be doing something useful. Hypothetically speaking, we could grab one sponsor to fund the thing - under the guise of it being a Marinators promotional tool, as per what Mick was looking for ideas on - use our own Marinators resources to add content, design it and lay it out, simply grab 4 x 500 reams of paper and print it off double sided with a decent laser printer, staple it together in the top left hand corner, and get 10 blokes to split up and distribute 500 copies to all central coast servo's, Maccas, RSL clubs, pubs, etc etc etc, wherver you think, one afternoon, say once a month. Whether it should or could be distributed at the stadium...whatever. Cheap as. We're looking at maybe $70 bucks for paper, staples, ink cartriges and petrol to do 500 odd. And a few hours of physical joint effort and mindpower. Could share content and cross-promote the Marinators website too, obviously. So sponsorship dollars would not be too high-a-chase, particularly since we're not out to make a profit, but not a hard sell either because the sponsors would get decent exposure. Depending on the bucks and effort we wanted to put in, we could make it 4-8 pages, do it prior to every home game, every fortnight or just every month, and the distrubution could be adjusted accordingly. We can take out of sponsorship whatever % for the Marinators bank account we think fair, or none at all. As for a call to arms, I'd love to be involved, and I've been working in Publishing Production for 15 years so I know a bit about it. No that you'd really need to be Kerry Packer to do something like this. Don't mind sitting at my keyboard and babbling on either, evidently.
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Post by marinermick on Aug 24, 2005 10:59:58 GMT 10
if it's 8 pages my work will sponsor the photocopying of 300 copies every edition
any else who can wrangle a few copies at their work?
i think a fanzine is a brilliant pronotional idea
wt, fancy being the man behind this?
let's get one up for the sydney game
who wants to do the design work? i've used all my favours from my very busy wife at the moment so she is out
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Post by Rubbernose on Aug 24, 2005 11:38:35 GMT 10
I work from home, and don't have a photocopier, but I'll personally 'sponsor' 2 x 500 reams of paper from OfficeWorks. ;D
I have a designer doing stuff for me now (I could do it myself but it'd look ordinary) so I can ask him if he minds helping out. Even if it's just with the initial design, because once a template is up a monkey could add the content. If no-one else has experience with this regard, I could do the 'layout'.
One idea I had for content and promotion of us; you may think it's corny or very pathetic and sad, but here goes anyway, just an idea.
In the Fanzine, we offer some kind of prize, (not expensive but a decent one, whatever, out of sponsorship dollars, or even a product from a Sponsor) and similar to the way radio stations do that 'hunt-a-person' at Erina Fair, in the Fanzine we say that on the next matchday, you've gotta come to a game, come over to Bay 16 and ask all Marinators something like, "are you the secret Marinator"? ;D
And the first person to find the "Secret Marinator" of the day, wins the prize.
Corny? Maybe. No-one bother? Maybe. But it could promote more people over to Bay 16 which is of course part of our aim, and be an ice-breaker to get newbies talking and involved too.
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Post by marinermick on Aug 24, 2005 11:47:50 GMT 10
love the idea RN
ok we now have the marinators fanzine committee so far of: WT (Chair) Rubbernose Auburnmariner (editing)
Anyone else?
Let's get this up for the first match.
Can we have a Mr Celery cartoon as a regular feature?
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Post by kevrenor on Aug 24, 2005 12:00:39 GMT 10
love the idea RN ok we now have the marinators fanzine committee so far of: WT (Chair) Rubbernose Auburnmariner (editing) Anyone else? Let's get this up for the first match. Can we have a Mr Celery cartoon as a regular feature? Good luck with it guys - it is a lot of work! I'm pretty full on with work, BOTN and other commitments so can't offer much help! The Spirit one which made a few appearances was called "Three Points & A Hangover" - got a catchy name? I'd suggest just start with a single or two A4 sheets, folded to make 4 or 8 pages, and handed out to the public during the week before game, and work up from there! What we also need is people to hand it out on the Coast! It could be made into a pdf, and put on the web site after the game for others to get to see. (I can do that if it is Win Word)
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Post by brett on Aug 24, 2005 12:02:22 GMT 10
Dunno about 'secret marinator' but some kind of prize or competition would be great.
As far as the Marinators balance, I think it should be made known in the 'zine' that the Marinators are behind it, but as far as content, it should more or less be all club stuff (ie nothing like 'everyone back to the kendall!'). The marinators web address would be there obviously.
I'm happy to get right behind this. Layout wise I mightn't be that useful, but if Mr Rubbernose can help out there it'd fantastic. Auburn has offered to be editor so he can help out there. Rather than specific roles I think it'll just be everyone putting in what help they can to get it done.
Content I think:
Cover - 'Mariners Mariners Mariners' as a potential name (stolen straight from leeds leeds leeds). Plus a list of features and a mission statement as to what the zine is for.
Other pages: Player profiles, from a fans point of view. If we do an issue each home game that would be 2 players per issue for the 10 rounds. A-League ladder, Mariners scorers list, A-League draw/calendar, Full match details for the upcoming match, including a small juicy preview to get people interested in the match ups or rivalries. To get them to the game basically!
Some player/coach interviews im sure would go down nicely. Lighthearted stuff like asking boogs if he likes how the marinators all wear his number.
We should definitely have the player nicknames there somewhere, could even have a competition to give a nickname to a player without one.
Another competition idea would be the best dressed mariners fan at a match. encourages them to get to the match AND get in the teams colours.
other ideas?
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Post by marinermick on Aug 24, 2005 12:05:01 GMT 10
we can have mscanada do a story on sonic!
good to have a female perspective
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Post by DJ on Aug 24, 2005 12:21:14 GMT 10
If this is gonna be a magazine type thing for the fans from the fans, and we are having player profiles and interviews, could we maybe have the same for members of the Marinators? E.g. why they follow the club, footballing hisory, where they live etc. People at the stadium can put names to faces then? Just a thought?
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Post by kevrenor on Aug 24, 2005 12:37:59 GMT 10
If this is gonna be a magazine type thing for the fans from the fans, and we are having player profiles and interviews, could we maybe have the same for members of the Marinators? E.g. why they follow the club, footballing hisory, where they live etc. People at the stadium can put names to faces then? Just a thought? I think it is 'from fans to non-fans' - ie. trying to turn them into fans - rather than us.. Some of what you suggest would be great on the Marinators web site instead - we need more submitted to marinators.net - just login and go to the users menu, and submit your material, or write something up and email one of the web site admins.
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Post by MsCanada on Aug 24, 2005 12:38:44 GMT 10
I don't know if i'd be a good interviewer.... haven't done that since uni but i do like to talk hee hee
i think it's a good idea and i don't mind helping a little with the production stuff but I work in the city so it may be a little hard. willing to offer though
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Post by DJ on Aug 24, 2005 12:43:50 GMT 10
If this is gonna be a magazine type thing for the fans from the fans, and we are having player profiles and interviews, could we maybe have the same for members of the Marinators? E.g. why they follow the club, footballing hisory, where they live etc. People at the stadium can put names to faces then? Just a thought? I think it is 'from fans to non-fans' - ie. trying to turn them into fans - rather than us.. Some of what you suggest would be great on the Marinators web site instead - we need more submitted to marinators.net - just login and go to the users menu, and submit your material, or write something up and email one of the web site admins. Good idea for the web site - I'll come up with some questions and try to get Froggy for the first 1!
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Post by Rubbernose on Aug 24, 2005 12:47:52 GMT 10
I'm keen to do this.
I know what you mean about the "Secret Marinator" thing WT, it's a bit cheesy. You see what I'm getting at though, perhaps we could expand upon the idea at some point. Something like that, that offers a call to action to get a prize is worth considering though, perhaps.
Kevrenor's idea of folding is a good one. The first issue could essentially be a double sided A3 sheet, folded in half to make 4xA4 pages. You could later expand it to be 2xA3 sheets folded to make 8xA4 pages. Don't really need to bind it.
So wherever we get the layout done (I'm looking into it) we can just print it off and photocopy a side, turn it over and run it back through photocopying the other side. Fold it in half, voilla.
Really don't need a naming rights sponsor to cover too many costs at this point. I'll 'sponsor' a 500 sheet ream of A3 paper, if Mick can even provide the facility to photocopy them.
Do you think it's worth running it past the club, before anything else is thought out? Or just go ahead and do it.
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Post by brett on Aug 24, 2005 12:52:11 GMT 10
If Ben Coonan will be there on Friday Mick we will talk to him them?
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Post by marinermick on Aug 24, 2005 12:52:32 GMT 10
it has nothing to do with the club - our business
i suggest a4 folded - less cumbersome and a hell of alot cheaper for paper
i'll sponsor the other 500 sheets of paper and will photocopy them giving us 1000 for the first game
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Post by Rubbernose on Aug 24, 2005 12:58:23 GMT 10
it has nothing to do with the club - our business i suggest a4 folded - less cumbersome and a hell of alot cheaper for paper i'll sponsor the other 500 sheets of paper and will photocopy them giving us 1000 for the first game Done. So aim for 1xA4 sheet, folded to make 4xA5 (half A4) pages. A compact little flyer. Can we copy in colour, or should we keep it b&w?
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Post by MsCanada on Aug 24, 2005 13:00:17 GMT 10
colour gets expensive $$$$$$$$
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