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Post by bakery5 on Mar 9, 2007 21:26:23 GMT 10
Oh Dibs, I was actually referring to ABC Radio, if you want to know what was said send me a PM, I won't mention it here. I have fox, I don't need to watch the tripe served up on the networks. Hey champ, watch it or I will red card you, just like at indoor football ;D |
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Post by greenpoleffc on Mar 9, 2007 23:00:50 GMT 10
Make that another Seppo with a brain. Harry Beleafonte on NPR tonight likening Bush to Hitler/Stalin but worse as they at least didnt "say" they believed in democracy. Also called Rice a "house slave".
No doubt he is sitting at home waiting for the door to get kicked in :-)
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Post by Jesus on Mar 10, 2007 10:30:16 GMT 10
I also listen to Newsradio (why no FM is Sydney??) and David Lord is enough cause to sell the bastards to Uncle Rupert/Macquarie radio. that's going a little far...  on the flip side, one of the things i really like about the abc is that they use the non-commercial names for venues - kardinia park, football park, docklands, penrith stadium, sydney football stadium... etc. At least "All things considered" from NPR makes me believe that there are at least a few dozen seppo's who seem pretty normal  sadly NPR seems to be in the minority. hey, for a larf, hop onto conservapedia and have a look around. it's meant to be (in their words) a much-needed alternative to Wikipedia, which is increasingly anti-Christian and anti-American. On Wikipedia, many of the dates are provided in the anti-Christian "C.E." instead of "A.D.", which Conservapedia uses. Christianity receives no credit for the great advances and discoveries it inspired, such as those of the Renaissance. yet the level of pure ignorance on there is just hilarious. check this out: Gravity is considered by scientists and evolutionists to be one of the fundamental forces of the universe. It is a theory which suggests that all masses are attracted to each other because of invisible particles called gravitons or invisible curves in space. The idea was first developed by Isaac Newton, and has been worked on by prominent scientists like Johannes Kepler and Albert Einstein. not that gravity is a scientific law (meaning it's been tested* to scientific exhaustion and is simply one of the most robust ideas in all of science). not that we rely on gravity's rules being right when we send astronauts into orbit or probes to mars... instead that it's a 'theory' (which is a stronger word than they think it is anyway) held by [spit] scientists and [spit spit] evolutionists. and that's the whole entry! clowns.  i.e. people have tried to disprove it. a lot. and failed. I think there are suggestions that gravity, as is commonly accepted is false. My mate who does advanced physics was mentioning something about it. Cant remember exactly what he was talking about, but something about gravity being understood on a different level, which some of the basic principles are not accurate. |
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Mar 10, 2007 11:03:54 GMT 10
that's going a little far... on the flip side, one of the things i really like about the abc is that they use the non-commercial names for venues - kardinia park, football park, docklands, penrith stadium, sydney football stadium... etc. sadly NPR seems to be in the minority. hey, for a larf, hop onto conservapedia and have a look around. it's meant to be (in their words) a much-needed alternative to Wikipedia, which is increasingly anti-Christian and anti-American. On Wikipedia, many of the dates are provided in the anti-Christian "C.E." instead of "A.D.", which Conservapedia uses. Christianity receives no credit for the great advances and discoveries it inspired, such as those of the Renaissance. yet the level of pure ignorance on there is just hilarious. check this out: Gravity is considered by scientists and evolutionists to be one of the fundamental forces of the universe. It is a theory which suggests that all masses are attracted to each other because of invisible particles called gravitons or invisible curves in space. The idea was first developed by Isaac Newton, and has been worked on by prominent scientists like Johannes Kepler and Albert Einstein. not that gravity is a scientific law (meaning it's been tested* to scientific exhaustion and is simply one of the most robust ideas in all of science). not that we rely on gravity's rules being right when we send astronauts into orbit or probes to mars... instead that it's a 'theory' (which is a stronger word than they think it is anyway) held by [spit] scientists and [spit spit] evolutionists. and that's the whole entry! clowns. i.e. people have tried to disprove it. a lot. and failed. I think there are suggestions that gravity, as is commonly accepted is false. My mate who does advanced physics was mentioning something about it. Cant remember exactly what he was talking about, but something about gravity being understood on a different level, which some of the basic principles are not accurate. ah, but that's doing science. that's trying to disprove existing theories, and posit new, testable ideas in their place and subject them to the same scrutiny. what it's not is an attempt to bag science to instead replace it with something untestable and unknowable. religion's fine and dandy, but when people seek to actually destroy scientific endeavours in that way (presumably because it's counter to their belief structures - see conservapedia's laughable entry on Young Earth Creationism) i really get my back up. |
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Post by Pete on Mar 10, 2007 11:31:00 GMT 10
David Lord hangs around Neutral Bay and I see him quite regularly. He's an old man, doesn't look too healthy and quite frankly is yesterday's news. Hopefully the newer generation of sports broadcasters will have a more open mind about all sports that Australians participate in, and not just one or two that they played when they were young or receive allowances or have memberships with (ala NSW Cricket and NSWRU for Lord). I felt that Lord lost the plot in the 70s when he was a vehement opponent of World Series Cricket and preferred the likes of Yallop, Hughes and Simpson to go to the Caribbean and get thrashed rather than make up with Chappell, Marsh and co. Since then I haven't any regard for what his opinion may be about any sport. Making slip ups on air is just a mistake. However, if it happened more than once, that's just being unprofessional. I dislike the way that other football codes and their advocates tend to run down football, calling it soccer, having digs and being disrespectful by not even getting names right. Our commentators have been very dignified by not throwing some mud back. I just would love to see Fossie, Les, Orsatti, hell even Slater & Harper, fire up one day and send a sh*t load of tripe about the other codes their way. There's a heap of garbage that could be flung at other codes, least of all the isolationism of these codes when compared to the whole world of sport. Mick, you wanna be the first football commentator to slag off NRL or AFL when on air this coming season? Go on, start the ball rolling mate.  |
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Post by Jesus on Mar 10, 2007 11:47:21 GMT 10
haha, that is a funny page.
"According to creationists scientist community, there is widespread discrimination against creationist scientists. [17] This is not surprising given that a poll among United States scientists showed approximately 45% of scientists believed there was no God."
It is surprising that the scientific community rejects it because it is religious is their claim i am guessing. Yet they say 55% of scientists believe in God. Got to love persuasive rather than actual arguments.
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Post by Pete on Mar 10, 2007 12:04:00 GMT 10
Had a quick look at the Conservapedia's entry mentioned above. First thing I noticed was that there is a belief that the Book of Genesis should be taken literally (that is, that the world was created in 6 days). Now, even very learned theologists don't subscribe to this theory, and the whole meaning of the Book of Genesis could be completely missed if you are too superficial and take the words verbatim and literal. Which is a shame for Christians who tend to take the Book of Genesis in this literal way, as it is a beautiful Book that is very historic in it's use of story and threaded meanings.
BTW, Dibo, aren't you a contributor to Wikipedia? In which case, as this Conservapedia is set up to tackle what it views as the anti Christian bias on Wikipedia, shouldn't you at least disclose your interest? Particularly so when you were the one who brought Conservapedia (and their views) into the thread.
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Mar 10, 2007 20:15:24 GMT 10
BTW, Dibo, aren't you a contributor to Wikipedia? In which case, as this Conservapedia is set up to tackle what it views as the anti Christian bias on Wikipedia, shouldn't you at least disclose your interest? Particularly so when you were the one who brought Conservapedia (and their views) into the thread. my interest is declared by the wikipedia userbar below each and every one of my messages. nobody could be in any doubt as to where i stand on the debate, and from my commentary nobody could be so mistaken as to assume that i'm somehow an impartial commentator - i'm not, and have never pretended to be. |
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Post by greenpoleffc on Mar 10, 2007 23:06:41 GMT 10
Ahh scientists, you gotta love em.
Experts at taking a theory as fact - flat earth, sun revolves around the earth. What next?? Global warming (there is actually research that debunks GW!!)
In logic, we cannot have discovered everything, only the sum of our current knowledge.
There are few certainties, death,taxes and the fact that Newcastle are Bogan scum. All other knowledge is a journey.
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Post by bakery5 on Mar 11, 2007 1:30:51 GMT 10
Since when is this the religion fourm!!!!!
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Post by Jesus on Mar 11, 2007 10:29:33 GMT 10
You know there is global warming on mars currently. For all we know the 2 are linked, rather than anything we are doing. Not saying i dont support the environment, i do, but in the end it is just a theory.
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Post by Rowdy on Mar 11, 2007 17:35:21 GMT 10
Since when is this the religion fourm!!!!! ;D Adelaide - Vidmar - ABC Radio - Wikipedia - Chrisitians- Gravity - Scientists - Christian Scientists - Religion...... WTF What next, "Intelligent Design and Bush's integration of it into mainstream US education. "can you give it a break, seriously mate, there's a smell in here that will outlast religion", - Kenny (the movie) |
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Mar 12, 2007 4:37:48 GMT 10
Ahh scientists, you gotta love em. Experts at taking a theory as fact - flat earth, sun revolves around the earth. What next?? Global warming (there is actually research that debunks GW!!) ha! gotta bite - there's also research that suggests that somehow wearing magnets is good for you. it's bad research by bad researchers and it's not worth the paper it's written on. and for good measure, there's a hell of a lot more reasearch that says they're wrong, and global warming *is* a problem. |
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Post by Ursus on Mar 12, 2007 5:17:09 GMT 10
Gravity does not exist.
The Earth sucks.
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Post by curious on Mar 12, 2007 8:57:57 GMT 10
haha, that is a funny page. "According to creationists scientist community, there is widespread discrimination against creationist scientists. [17] creationist scientists ? Now that's an oxymoron if ever there was one.  |
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Post by curious on Mar 12, 2007 10:14:00 GMT 10
I looked up kangaroo www.conservapedia.com/Kangaroo- According to the origins theory model used by creation scientists, modern kangaroos, like all modern animals, originated in the Middle East[1] and are the descendants of the two founding members of the modern kangaroo baramin that were taken aboard Noah's Ark prior to the Great Flood.Also according to creation science, after the Flood, kangaroos bred from the Ark passengers migrated to Australia. There is debate whether this migration happened over land[2] -- as Australia was still for a time connected to the Middle East before the supercontinent of Pangea broke apart[3] -- or if they rafted on mats of vegetation torn up by the receding flood waters-At least this thread displays that football is the only thing some of us have in common |
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Mar 12, 2007 10:16:37 GMT 10
i love the phrase 'according to creation science'. that is the phrase that says 'we're out there, looking for ways to bend the evidence to satisfactorily fit our predetermined (because it's in a 2,000 year old book) conclusion'.
tail. wagging. dog.
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Post by bakery5 on Mar 12, 2007 13:40:03 GMT 10
I cant believe what crap gets posted on this forum.
What the hack does all this have to do with Tony Vidmar? How about we get back to the topic of talking about football and leave all this religion stuff out of the football forum?
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Post by Jesus on Mar 12, 2007 15:04:50 GMT 10
This thread initailly had very little to do with Tony |
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Post by ~Floss~ on Mar 12, 2007 18:19:23 GMT 10
It shouldn't have had anything to do with Tony, except for a slip-up by someone with debatable knowledge of the field. (The announcer who got the name wrong, that is). That's probably the link to the topics of religion vs. science, global warming, volunteer-maintained web-based reference tools.... |
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