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Post by Perm on Aug 10, 2007 20:39:54 GMT 10
roddy is an angry and intense man Mick youve got my quote of the year vote.
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Post by blackadder on Aug 11, 2007 12:26:24 GMT 10
Mariners are doing well in the North/North West Sydney with the likes of Gladesville etc linked to the Mariners. Goes without saying there is the the opportunity to claim the area. Budget FC have done SFA around here, and probaly don't realise that there is life on the North side of the Harbour. Ned welcome to the future of Football in Australia
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Post by Pete on Aug 11, 2007 12:42:47 GMT 10
Well, well the tide turns eh Ned? Sounds like you need some pre match diplomacy to clear the air with the Marinators before you stick your head into the Kendall! I welcome George Negus to the board of the Mariners, he has considerable expertise in media and has long been a passionate follower of football in Australia.
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Post by omni on Aug 11, 2007 20:22:17 GMT 10
Mariners are doing well in the North/North West Sydney with the likes of Gladesville etc linked to the Mariners. Goes without saying there is the the opportunity to claim the area. Budget FC have done SFA around here, and probaly don't realise that there is life on the North side of the Harbour. Ned welcome to the future of Football in Australia Indeed, I see a heck of a lot more Mariners jerseys at UWS than I do Sydney FC jerseys, sure they're all coasties but it still says something about the level of support.
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Post by jip on Aug 12, 2007 9:29:29 GMT 10
Welcome aboard Negus (and Ned?) I guess. Maybe I'm just the odd one out here--and rightly so I guess as I'm only new to the forums--but my only problem with a bloke who once went for Sydney and so easily starts followin us is "where's the loyalty"?
Might be a weird way to look at it but even Rugby League fans remain mostly loyal to their squad. Sure Budget FC are a bit of a business and I wouldn't disagree that they'd be rotten to support but...
How long until the Mariners do something "wrong" and the same bloke decides to jump ship again? Maybe I'm just too cautious.
Congrats on following the best club in the country either way.
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Post by Pete on Aug 12, 2007 12:37:14 GMT 10
Welcome jip! Yes, you do have a point about loyalty, but the benefits far outweigh the negatives that these guys can bring into the club. Years of experience dealing with senior aspects of football administration in this country, a genuine desire to see football turn into the major sport in Australia that it should be (and not just the quick buck), well connected with business and media networks. In areas that the Mariners management may feel they are in deep, these guys can settle down any boardroom uncertainty and draw upon their past experiences (both good and bad). That said tho, the Mariners have succeeded before Messrs. Turnbull and Negus became interested, so should they decide at a later point to establish their own club or divest themselves of their interests in the Mariners, the other board people will have had some confidence of their own, and not left 'holding the baby' - they will be able to carry on should they leave. Bear in mind also, that neither Turnbull or Negus would have been interested in investing, or being involved with the Mariners, if they had not believed that the Mariners was a good club already. So, in a way, their involvement can be viewed as a vote of confidence with what the Mariners have been doing to date.
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Post by jip on Aug 12, 2007 12:58:28 GMT 10
Well said. Cheers for the welcome.
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Post by Pete on Aug 12, 2007 14:06:22 GMT 10
Marinermick and others who have made comments about the incident involving Ned & Roddy. Where you actually there? Did you see the minor incidents & provocations leading up to that confrontation? From what I know, it is quite poor form to lump the whole incident onto Roddy's lap and dismiss any possible grudges that Roddy may or may not have towards Ned, as simply a "Roddy is an angry man" type of generalisation. Boisterous and a bit blue he may be, but I have seen Roddy charge down into Bay 16 and stop some dickheads being violent rather than start something himself. At times when things got a bit sticky, and security were looking elsewhere, I have seen Roddy have the command of the situation and stop things being thrown or some other retaliation take place. Have any of you PM'd Roddy to ask his views, or warn him you are going to say such things about him? I'm sure he couldn't give a flying f&*k about the incident some 2 years after it happened, but I'd think he'd be disappointed with these comments. As for Roddy the man, I think many of us are forgetting the lengths he went to, to get those GF seats all lumped together in one almighty huge bay at the SFS and help put together one hell of a Yellow Army which the players and everyone else was proud to be a part of, and which is still sweetly in the minds of Mariners Management (a photo of it is in their lobby FFS). That alone, deserves more respect to him than has been shown above in some folks comments. I surely hope Roddy see the comments as a joke or some sort of play upon Ned's nerves rather than some cheapshot at himself. You may care to clarify your comments to him if you happen to see him today, or whenever you next see him. And no Ned, he's not prone to lashing out unnecessarily and is quite a decent bloke once you take the time to sit down and enjoy a beer with him.
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Post by Jeff (LouMacari) on Aug 12, 2007 19:29:19 GMT 10
Thats it..."Roddy, will you marry me?"
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Post by marinermick on Aug 13, 2007 8:34:56 GMT 10
Marinermick and others who have made comments about the incident involving Ned & Roddy. Where you actually there? Did you see the minor incidents & provocations leading up to that confrontation? From what I know, it is quite poor form to lump the whole incident onto Roddy's lap and dismiss any possible grudges that Roddy may or may not have towards Ned, as simply a "Roddy is an angry man" type of generalisation. Boisterous and a bit blue he may be, but I have seen Roddy charge down into Bay 16 and stop some dickheads being violent rather than start something himself. At times when things got a bit sticky, and security were looking elsewhere, I have seen Roddy have the command of the situation and stop things being thrown or some other retaliation take place. Have any of you PM'd Roddy to ask his views, or warn him you are going to say such things about him? I'm sure he couldn't give a flying f&*k about the incident some 2 years after it happened, but I'd think he'd be disappointed with these comments. As for Roddy the man, I think many of us are forgetting the lengths he went to, to get those GF seats all lumped together in one almighty huge bay at the SFS and help put together one hell of a Yellow Army which the players and everyone else was proud to be a part of, and which is still sweetly in the minds of Mariners Management (a photo of it is in their lobby FFS). That alone, deserves more respect to him than has been shown above in some folks comments. I surely hope Roddy see the comments as a joke or some sort of play upon Ned's nerves rather than some cheapshot at himself. You may care to clarify your comments to him if you happen to see him today, or whenever you next see him. And no Ned, he's not prone to lashing out unnecessarily and is quite a decent bloke once you take the time to sit down and enjoy a beer with him. give yourself an uppercut for this needless tirade pete we are not bagging roddy out - he is our mate and will admit himself he is angry and intense he is also big enough to speak for himself
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Post by Pete on Aug 13, 2007 16:14:25 GMT 10
With George Negus on the Board of the Mariners, does that mean they have expanded the Board, or has someone jumped off (walked the gangplank!). Does this also mean that Negus has taken an investment in the Mariners himself or is he there at the insistence of Turnbull, who recently made such an investment and probably would want more than one board spot for this investment?
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Post by Jesus on Aug 14, 2007 18:27:23 GMT 10
I do not think it is a investment thing. Just a movement onto the board, probably prompted by turnball
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Post by sacko on Aug 20, 2007 21:08:34 GMT 10
So with no financial interest could there be a mutiny on the bounty just over the horizon?
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Post by Pete on Aug 21, 2007 3:08:37 GMT 10
So with no financial interest could there be a mutiny on the bounty just over the horizon? Not sure what you mean Sacko, but Negus is possibly there at the insistence of Turnbull, and I guess these guys have ideas on how things should be run. Negus' expertise in things media might make someone like Ben a little nervous, but Negus would have to put issues on the agenda of Board meetings and I'd doubt he could interfere or get too involved with the day to day running of the media liasion section due to his high position, and people like Lyall and John to go to first. Whether the new Board members run into major disagreements with the rest of the Board and/or whether Turnbull holds the casting vote if he's the major shareholder and can ultimately get what he wants - who knows?
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Post by shift2 on Aug 21, 2007 8:22:17 GMT 10
I seriously doubt someone like Negus is there to try to oust Coonan.
Negus is there to bring more attention to the club, not get a job me thinks.
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Post by marinermick on Aug 21, 2007 8:42:07 GMT 10
I seriously doubt someone like Negus is there to try to oust Coonan. Negus is there to bring more attention to the club, not get a job me thinks. exactly - negus is a television current affairs host he is not going to become media manager for the mariners ben would relish the chance to get advice from someone so experienced and add to his impressive set of skills anyway, from what i understand it is not happening now as negus has too much on his plate to commit 100% to a board position
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Post by Pete on Aug 21, 2007 11:31:31 GMT 10
Before people jump to further conclusions about my above comments please read them again.
I mentioned Negus on the Board might make Ben a little nervous, drawing on the fact that Negus does have an extensive and very successful career in media/journalism (and mentioned just prior in the comments above). It would be the equivalent, to Lawrie, of Sir Alex Ferguson, Dick Advocaat or Guus taking a Board seat. Very exciting but nervy.
And Negus may well pick up on things media as that's what he's involved with day in day out, and naturally that would mean Ben having to answer Board enquiries. I also said that I'd doubt that Negus could interfere. ( I have no idea what Negus the person is like, but drawing upon what his son is like, he may well be an interferring, annoying, so-and-so! ;D) And I was going over what Sacko had said - he suggested a 'mutiny on the bounty ?'
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Post by marinermick on Aug 21, 2007 11:38:59 GMT 10
Before people jump to further conclusions about my above comments please read them again. I mentioned Negus on the Board might make Ben a little nervous, drawing on the fact that Negus does have an extensive and very successful career in media/journalism. It would be the equivalent, to Lawrie, of Sir Alex Ferguson, Dick Advocaat or Guus taking a Board seat. Very exciting but nervy. And Negus may well pick up on things media as that's what he's involved with day in day out, and naturally that would mean Ben having to answer Board enquiries. I also said that I'd doubt that Negus could interfere. ( I have no idea what Negus the person is like, but drawing upon what his son is like, he may well be an interferring, annoying, so-and-so!) And I was going over what Sacko had said - he suggested a 'mutiny on the bounty ?' Lyall and the board run a tight ship and there is a clear line between staff, management and the board. Negus would not interfere on an operational level because that is not the job of the board and from I have seen both the Chair and the General Manager would not tolerate this blurring of the boundaries. The board is there to provide strategic direction and not decisions on the day to day running of the club. That is left to the very capable General Manager. Ben reports to John (the General Manager) and John reports to the Board of Directors. Ben would not, nor should, ever report to board enquiries. That is the job of the General Manager.
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Post by Pete on Aug 21, 2007 11:54:08 GMT 10
Before people jump to further conclusions about my above comments please read them again. I mentioned Negus on the Board might make Ben a little nervous, drawing on the fact that Negus does have an extensive and very successful career in media/journalism. It would be the equivalent, to Lawrie, of Sir Alex Ferguson, Dick Advocaat or Guus taking a Board seat. Very exciting but nervy. And Negus may well pick up on things media as that's what he's involved with day in day out, and naturally that would mean Ben having to answer Board enquiries. I also said that I'd doubt that Negus could interfere. ( I have no idea what Negus the person is like, but drawing upon what his son is like, he may well be an interferring, annoying, so-and-so!) And I was going over what Sacko had said - he suggested a 'mutiny on the bounty ?' Lyall and the board run a tight ship and there is a clear line between staff, management and the board. Negus would not interfere on an operational level because that is not the job of the board and from I have seen both the Chair and the General Manager would not tolerate this blurring of the boundaries. The board is there to provide strategic direction and not decisions on the day to day running of the club. That is left to the very capable General Manager. Ben reports to John (the General Manager) and John reports to the Board of Directors. Ben would not, nor should, ever report to board enquiries. That is the job of the General Manager. And is that not what I had mentioned previously? I said Negus was in a high position -would have to go through Lyall or John. I have quite a lot of confidence in the likes of John and Lyall, and Ben too. But that doesn't mean that a Board member is not going to ask questions, particularly if a strategic matter is not going down well in the media. And what do you think would be one of the first things said to Ben by John if there was such an enquiry? I bet it would be something like " The Board would like to know......" just so Ben could put it at the top of his 'things to do' list and put a top effort into the response. All a wasted discussion really, you say that Negus has declined the Board position?
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Post by marinermick on Aug 21, 2007 12:08:25 GMT 10
you say that Negus has declined the Board position? that is what i understand
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