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Post by MarinatorMum on May 28, 2005 17:00:07 GMT 10
Australian Government should DEMAND her release and they should remove all aid to indonesia until she is released.
ALL AUSTRALIANS SHOULD BOYCOTT BALI UNTIL THEY RELEASE HER.
If it was your child would you want our government to pull out all stops to get them back.
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Post by MarinatorMum on May 28, 2005 17:06:04 GMT 10
JOHN HOWARD FREE SCHAPELLE CORBY OR LOOSE YOUR JOB.
BALI BOMBER GOT 2.5 YEARS AND SCHAPELLE GOT 20 YEARS wheres bali justice in that, have they forgotten what us australians have done for them over the past 6 months and will do 10 million Dollars worth of reasons to release her. Not to mention what australian tourists have done for their economy over the past 20 years.
Do they hate australians over there, you killed 186 of them in the safari club, is it racism what is it BALI ?
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Post by kevrenor on May 28, 2005 17:25:41 GMT 10
I would chose the option that isn't there:
I don't know if she did or didn't do it - but there are doubts in my mind.
I pray for her anyway.
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Post by brett on May 28, 2005 18:01:25 GMT 10
Whether she is guilty or not, which I dont know, they have taken the stance that if she is punished this harshly, its going to be a big deterent for those that ARE smuggling in drugs. Bad publicity now/good reputation later (if they stay drug free)
I wont pretend to understand what they are better off with, but I feel strongly for the poor girl. Guilty or not, the punishment is way too harsh, and its a shame that the world has places where such immoral, inhuman actions are allowed.
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Post by MarinatorMum on May 28, 2005 18:23:53 GMT 10
Whether she is guilty or not, which I dont know, they have taken the stance that if she is punished this harshly, its going to be a big deterent for those that ARE smuggling in drugs. Bad publicity now/good reputation later (if they stay drug free) I wont pretend to understand what they are better off with, but I feel strongly for the poor girl. Guilty or not, the punishment is way too harsh, and its a shame that the world has places where such immoral, inhuman actions are allowed. I agree, i am bewildered how can the Bali Bombers get 2 years each when they murdered people and schapelle get 20 years ? |
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Post by marinermick on May 28, 2005 19:37:41 GMT 10
boycotting a holiday because we don't agree with a court verdict is a harsh
she was in possession of banned drugs and the court acted accordingly
i believe she did not know the drugs were there however i get this suspicion that her brothers knows more - he has a history of drug use
schappelle could even be covering for her brother
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Post by omni on May 28, 2005 21:58:42 GMT 10
I thought we gave Indonesia aid because they where another part of Humanity suffering. I didn't know it was conditional.
Mick makes some great points. Remember the law was possesion not knowingly possession. In terms of Indonesian sentances she's gotten away with 20 years.
Indonesia needs tourism to survive (from a Tourism Student) so don't be so childish about it. That is the diplomatic equivalant of I'm not friends with you anymore nyer nyer. If you destroy tourism in Indonesia their prison system will get worse adding to problems for Corby. The best thing for Corby is if everyone just quiets down for a bit, unfortunatley it is not going to happen, if anything the appeal will lengthen the sentance (did I mention I studied Indonesian for 6 years?)
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Post by FergieIsBlue on May 30, 2005 15:52:09 GMT 10
I don't pretend to have all evidence to hand, so I will not pretend to know whether she is guilty or not.
Politics and law never should meet. The Aussie Govt, much as I am not their biggest fan, should not be making statements pontificating about the actions of a court of law. Therfore, the "I can empathise but am powerless" statements to date are right on the money.
All her defence team seemed to do was encourage her to write letters and cry. If you want to blame anyone, blame them!
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Post by marinermick on May 30, 2005 15:57:36 GMT 10
I don't pretend to have all evidence to hand, so I will not pretend to know whether she is guilty or not. Politics and law never should meet. The Aussie Govt, much as I am not their biggest fan, should not be making statements pontificating about the actions of a court of law. Therfore, the "I can empathise but am powerless" statements to date are right on the money. All her defence team seemed to do was encourage her to write letters and cry. If you want to blame anyone, blame them! yeah, good call the problem is that people in Australia seem to want to punish the hard-woking balinese or the sunami victims in arceh as retribution this is both illogical and inhuman |
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Post by DJ on Jun 1, 2005 12:19:01 GMT 10
That amount of pot is no accident I believe, something is definitely fishy about it thou! I think what she got is far too harsh, weed is grown in the ground not man made like some drugs, pot is nothing really. But thats a different argument all together, everyone has their own beliefs.
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Post by Fish on Jun 1, 2005 20:07:53 GMT 10
As harsh as it is to see her were she is I agree with most of the people on here in that someone close to her knew what was in her bag and I dont think they are going to come forward now after her sentence, as sad as that is I think she will probably spend the rest of her life in hell.
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Post by brett on Jun 2, 2005 18:20:07 GMT 10
Yeah people arent going to go "Hey great with a decision like that it must be drug free there! Pack your bags lets go!"
It's more like "I dont want that to happen to me, I'll just hit the gold coast."
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Post by marinermick on Jun 2, 2005 22:31:59 GMT 10
Yeah people arent going to go "Hey great with a decision like that it must be drug free there! Pack your bags lets go!" It's more like "I dont want that to happen to me, I'll just hit the gold coast." read today's letter section in the sun weekly and one lady is making it her personal life ambition to see that no australians go to bali |
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Post by marinermick on Jun 2, 2005 22:32:38 GMT 10
JOHN HOWARD FREE SCHAPELLE CORBY OR LOOSE YOUR JOB. BALI BOMBER GOT 2.5 YEARS AND SCHAPELLE GOT 20 YEARS wheres bali justice in that, have they forgotten what us australians have done for them over the past 6 months and will do 10 million Dollars worth of reasons to release her. Not to mention what australian tourists have done for their economy over the past 20 years. Do they hate australians over there, you killed 186 of them in the safari club, is it racism what is it BALI ? actually the bali bombers are on death row |
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Post by chelseagirl on Jun 4, 2005 17:09:12 GMT 10
20 Years is too long a sentence, murderers and rapists get much less, drugs wreck families and it's the young children that suffer. I understand your feelings as a mother but what if one of your kids died or were addicted to drugs, would you still feel the same, guilty or not the Australian government has no right to intervene in another countries legal system . If you want to boycot Bali go ahead everyone has the right to their own opinion we were having a lovely family birthday party the other day when I brought up the subject of Shapelle, what a fire cracker!! The only person I feel sorry for is her mother.
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Post by MarinatorMum on Jun 4, 2005 22:41:09 GMT 10
boycotting a holiday because we don't agree with a court verdict is a harsh i believe she did not know the drugs were there however i get this suspicion that her brothers knows more - he has a history of drug use Thats an interesting theory mick, one i hadnt thought of and the father has been in jail too, have you heard him speaking , sounds like hes had one too many cones and a few too many schooners. However, i feel for her so bad. I have always planned to go to bali shopping, actually only a few months before all this happened, we were planning a girls shopping spree for 7 days, but have canned it now. My son had asked me to pay for him to surf in bali as his year 12 schoolies trip. Hes now going to the gold coast instead. But i will just let you all know, when going over seas it doesnt matter whether you go to a western country or an asian country , there is nowhere as good as home, whether it be for hotels, motels, tourism or jails. American cops are jsut as bad as indonesians. |
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Post by DJ on Jun 6, 2005 10:26:19 GMT 10
Tell me this everyone - If it was a 21 year old man, a wog from Sydney and the circumstances were extactly the same, would it have caused such an uproar?
I don't think so, most people would have said bloody idiot serves him right! Which is wrong!
20 years is too long for what she did (apparently did anyway), it's madness! BUT if she did do it, she knew what the consequence could be!
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Post by marinermick on Jun 6, 2005 10:33:01 GMT 10
Tell me this everyone - If it was a 21 year old man, a wog from Sydney and the circumstances were extactly the same, would it have caused such an uproar? I don't think so, most people would have said bloody idiot serves him right! Which is wrong! 20 years is too long for what she did (apparently did anyway), it's madness! BUT if she did do it, she knew what the consequence could be! no, your right but it is all about ratings and selling newspapers wogs and asians don't sell papers when they are in trouble because they are already stereotyped as criminals unfortunately good looking, blued-eyed caucasians in trouble do |
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Post by MarinatorMum on Jun 7, 2005 21:22:23 GMT 10
Tell me this everyone - If it was a 21 year old man, a wog from Sydney and the circumstances were extactly the same, would it have caused such an uproar? I don't think so, most people would have said bloody idiot serves him right! Which is wrong! 20 years is too long for what she did (apparently did anyway), it's madness! BUT if she did do it, she knew what the consequence could be! I would still be this hopping made if it were, the truth of the matter is if they are an australian born citizen, then they're australian, no matter what the heritage is. And i cant stand seeing any aussie treated with that much contempt. A 21 year old australian male, could have quite easily have been my son, your son or anyone's son we knew. Gee's could have been any reserve grade player on the central coast. Would we have got behind him and supported him. BLOODY OATH MATE. |
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Post by omni on Jun 7, 2005 23:50:58 GMT 10
What would you be saying if an Indonesian woman showed up to Sydney Airport with 4.2kg of Marijuana in her bag? Then what if she started abusing her government, Indonesian police, insulted all Australians and the only 'witness' called on was an Indonesian Criminal?
Having said that, Corby has been screwed by her legal team who only cared about money and refused to let the government assist her.
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