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Post by Bearinator on Jan 17, 2006 23:52:07 GMT 10
My god, what a movie.
Im not sure when this movie comes out, or if it already has for that matter, but if your reading this thread, watch it.
Kind of puts that "You shouldn't throw beer at people" thing into its place.
I, as a few of the marinators will tell you, am never lost for words, but there is a first for everything.
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Post by grimsbymariner on Jan 18, 2006 4:45:00 GMT 10
I found it extremely surreal watching Frodo and that guy out of Sex and the City singing football songs and pretending to be firm boys. It is almost completely inaccurate in its' portrayal of football violence.
Each to their own but in my opinion it is rubbish- the Hollywood version of the Football Factory.
Yes football is THE world game, but the Americans still dont get it do they?!
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Jan 18, 2006 8:23:09 GMT 10
Yes football is THE world game, but the Americans still dont get it do they?! you should look at this link for a measure of how much the americans don't get it: from The Guardian: Blinkered America is already among the thugs - football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9753,1660884,00.html (because of the commas you'll probably have to cut + paste the link into your browser) |
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Post by grimsbymariner on Jan 18, 2006 11:37:21 GMT 10
you should look at this link for a measure of how much the americans don't get it: from The Guardian: Blinkered America is already among the thugs - football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9753,1660884,00.html (because of the commas you'll probably have to cut + paste the link into your browser) I wasn't talking about hooliganism, i was talking about the sport itself and how it brings people together, and is the world sport but yet America hasnt really embraced it yet. Well the case could be true in terms of hooliganism aswell, as the cases of American yobs in that case is totally different to the cases of violence in the UK. As he said you have home and away fans sitting together and so you get the odd fight in the stands. That doesn't happen in England. As fans don't sit together and surveillance is so tight around the grounds (as you can see in Football Factory) they often make pre-arranged meetings far from the madding crowd. Pubs get trashed in England at alot of games but that doesn't happen in America. The difference being that English hooligansim is for the most part organised, where as the American hooliganism is very spur of the moment- like after a major cup win for example. The truth is you can't compare American hooligans to English/European, as they are from different sports and the violence happens through different means. I hope that makes sense! |
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Post by Bearinator on Jan 18, 2006 22:02:17 GMT 10
I just had an English mate tell me he was once chased down the road in Tottenham by 3 Arsenal fans, 1 with a bat, 1 with a broken bottle and 1 with a chain with a pad lock on the end. All he was doing was walking home from the game. He ran into a shop and the packi owner closed the roller shutter, and for half an hour these blokes pelted the shop front with stuff.
That seems very "real" to me.
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Post by shelleybeach on Jan 24, 2006 3:24:08 GMT 10
if you're interested in that sort of thing i reckon the football factory was a much better attempt at capturing it but I've heard some people say it was OK, i think it was released with a different title in the states.
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Post by Bearinator on Jan 25, 2006 21:59:04 GMT 10
For some strange reason, I preffer Green Street. Hhhmmmmm now let me think what that reason could be, hhhmmmmmmm.
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Post by shelleybeach on Jan 26, 2006 5:09:06 GMT 10
is it because the pub scenes were shot in Brentford? OK I can see why you'd like it, who knows there's probably kids in america singing bubbles right now. I actually i didn't mind it, much better than pride & prejudice my wife made me sit through too. The fight scenes are good but the story itself is a just a bit of a stretch and surely they could have got someone more realistic than elijah wood. apparently it was called 'Green Street Hooligans' in america (are they that stupid?)
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Post by Bearinator on Jan 26, 2006 18:03:02 GMT 10
OK I can see why you'd like it, who knows there's probably kids in america singing bubbles right now. Pretty Bubbles the song was actually writen by and American, who then moved 2 East London, and it obviously caught on. And yes, I agree that frodo was a bad choice as the lead character. |
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