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Post by voice of reason on Dec 24, 2006 17:13:57 GMT 10
...and I forgot...the $50 000 he was going to raise for the Sri Lankan cricket ground destroyed in the Tsunami evaporated.
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Post by Auburn Mariner on Dec 24, 2006 18:45:31 GMT 10
FOR: A decent bowler AGAINST: Drug cheat, failed husband and father, mysoginist, weak willed and immature. Not a hero. Weak willed? You have got to be kidding. SK Warne has NEVER backed down from a challenge on the field. Took a diuretic? Yes. Failed Dad? Well, is he? He sees his kids more than I do, and they love him, so is he a failed Dad or am I? Failed husband? Pay that one too. Simone Warne is no innocent, BTW; they had an open marriage for a long time. Mysoginist? No way; he loves female company, that's why he gets in trouble so much. Decent bowler? 699 wickets at 25 bowling leggies, he qualifies as one of the best 10 bowlers of all time (SF Barnes, WJ O'Reilly, CV Grimmett, FS Trueman, MD Marshall, DK Lillee, M Muralitharan, ELC Ambrose, GD McGrath are the others). A hero he is and will always be. Yours in cricket, AM |
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Post by Auburn Mariner on Dec 24, 2006 18:46:39 GMT 10
And he will make an announcement on the 50k for Sri Lanka shortly. I understand he is dipping into his own pocket for at LEAST 25k to make up the difference. Well done, Shane.
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Post by Pete on Dec 28, 2006 17:36:48 GMT 10
The last episode in England came down to two buxom, 27 year-old hookers being PAID by News of the World (think the Tele with hooters) to have CONSENSUAL sex with a single 37 year-old man. What is the name of the Editor, his phone number and when's the next flight to Heathrow? ;D ;D (Too bad I bowl like a girl tho  ) Seriously tho, Warne is like a lot of greats. He's not perfect. If Keith Miller had had his fame in this era he too would have been front page news for all the wrong reasons - he was definately no saint and a charmer to ladies long after he was married. Warne's personal and off field dramas have mostly not changed my opinion of him, but I don't forgive him over the diuretic issue. To me, that was a blatant drug cheat as silly as Ben Johnson's in Seoul, and he deserved his suspension. I have enjoyed watching the playing career of Shane Warne. He came at a time when Australia had had a couple of decent spinners previous to him, and the time was just right for a great spinner to come out and really baffle every batsman. The fact he was/is an attacking leg spinner made it even more spicy on the field. He was easily seen as combative as the fiercest pace bowler, at a time when spinners were put into play by most teams as bowling the last 10-15 overs before the new ball. Most teams also used spinners quite defensively. A spinner the quality of Warne could never be consistently belted out of the park, and defensive field placings became a thing of the past. I do believe that tactically, Warne's prowess has changed the way the game was played and that in iteself is a major achievement for him. I wonder what the learned cricket folks would think of a comparison to Warne and Bill "Tiger" O'Reilly? O'Reilly had the stocky build like Warne, and I've read he was quite combative for his time. Obviously, Warne has had the better use of more Test Matches and covered pitches and a greater scientific approach to his craft - but O'Reilly had to front up to Bradman more than once in Sheffield Shield matches and the might of England at that time. |
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Post by omni on Dec 28, 2006 18:04:43 GMT 10
Ahhh Ben Johnson, at least he came out and admit it "Yea, I was on drugs, but so were the other seven guys."
I almost can forgive Warnie for the Diuretic thing, I was at that game and I can assure you it was just Mr Warne's stupidity and not a masking agent for a performance enhancer, he played like CRAP.
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Post by Auburn Mariner on Dec 29, 2006 9:01:10 GMT 10
Pete, O'Reilly was 6ft 2in tall. Check out this O'Reilly Obit from Wisden:
""Bill O'Reilly, who died in a Sydney hospital on October 6, 1992, aged 86, was probably the greatest spin bowler the game has ever produced. Bill Tiger O'Reilly was unquestionably one of cricket's great figures: as a player, as a character and later as a writer on the game. His cricket was proof that spin bowling was not necessarily a gentle art. He was 6ft 2in tall, gripped the ball in his enormous right hand and released it at a pace that could be almost fast-medium. It would then bounce ferociously on the hard pitches of his time and, on occasion, knock wicket-keepers off their feet. He bowled leg-breaks and, especially, top-spinners and googlies, backed up by an intimidating manner. Jack Fingleton said he was a flurry of limbs, fire and steel-edged temper. It has been suggested that his action and the general commotion before delivery were born of a deep sense of frustration at not being able to bowl fast enough to knock the batsman down. Off the field, his gruffness was mitigated by his intelligence, erudition, wit and twinkling eyes.
He played 27 Test matches and took 144 wickets - 102 of them Englishmen and the vital wicket of Walter Hammond ten times - averaging 22.59. But his figures have to be judged by the fact that all but one of his Tests came in the 1930s, when other bowlers were dominated by batsmen to an unprecedented extent. No one ever dominated O'Reilly. Even when England made 903 at The Oval in 1938, he bowled 85 overs and finished with figures of three for 178. And before that, he had secured the Ashes by taking five for 66 and five for 56 at Headingley.""
Tests: 27
Wickets: 144
Best: 7/54
Best in Match: 11/129
Average 22.59
His first class figures are phenomenal; 774 wkts at 16.60, BB 9/38.
You know Warnie's figures.
O'Reilly and Warne would have been unbelievable together, as they were so different.
Regards,
AM
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Post by bakery5 on Dec 29, 2006 12:45:05 GMT 10
FOR: A decent bowler AGAINST: Drug cheat, failed husband and father, mysoginist, weak willed and immature. Not a hero. Weak willed? You have got to be kidding. SK Warne has NEVER backed down from a challenge on the field. Took a diuretic? Yes. Failed Dad? Well, is he? He sees his kids more than I do, and they love him, so is he a failed Dad or am I? Failed husband? Pay that one too. Simone Warne is no innocent, BTW; they had an open marriage for a long time. Mysoginist? No way; he loves female company, that's why he gets in trouble so much. Decent bowler? 699 wickets at 25 bowling leggies, he qualifies as one of the best 10 bowlers of all time (SF Barnes, WJ O'Reilly, CM Grimmett, FS Trueman, MD Marshall, DK Lillee, M Muralitharan, ELC Ambrose, GD McGrath are the others). A hero he is and will always be. Yours in cricket, AM Open marriage, f*** I missed out big time on hooking up with Mrs.Warne ;D |
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Post by bakery5 on Dec 29, 2006 12:47:59 GMT 10
The last episode in England came down to two buxom, 27 year-old hookers being PAID by News of the World (think the Tele with hooters) to have CONSENSUAL sex with a single 37 year-old man. What is the name of the Editor, his phone number and when's the next flight to Heathrow? ;D ;D (Too bad I bowl like a girl tho ) Seriously tho, Warne is like a lot of greats. He's not perfect. If Keith Miller had had his fame in this era he too would have been front page news for all the wrong reasons - he was definately no saint and a charmer to ladies long after he was married. Warne's personal and off field dramas have mostly not changed my opinion of him, but I don't forgive him over the diuretic issue. To me, that was a blatant drug cheat as silly as Ben Johnson's in Seoul, and he deserved his suspension. I have enjoyed watching the playing career of Shane Warne. He came at a time when Australia had had a couple of decent spinners previous to him, and the time was just right for a great spinner to come out and really baffle every batsman. The fact he was/is an attacking leg spinner made it even more spicy on the field. He was easily seen as combative as the fiercest pace bowler, at a time when spinners were put into play by most teams as bowling the last 10-15 overs before the new ball. Most teams also used spinners quite defensively. A spinner the quality of Warne could never be consistently belted out of the park, and defensive field placings became a thing of the past. I do believe that tactically, Warne's prowess has changed the way the game was played and that in iteself is a major achievement for him. I wonder what the learned cricket folks would think of a comparison to Warne and Bill "Tiger" O'Reilly? O'Reilly had the stocky build like Warne, and I've read he was quite combative for his time. Obviously, Warne has had the better use of more Test Matches and covered pitches and a greater scientific approach to his craft - but O'Reilly had to front up to Bradman more than once in Sheffield Shield matches and the might of England at that time. I wish some guy would pay 2 chicks to have sex with me  |
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Post by LeedsMariner#4 on Jan 1, 2007 21:09:21 GMT 10
Langer has announced he will retire after the sydney test match as well
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Post by marinermum on Jan 3, 2007 16:44:05 GMT 10
His retirement will give him more time to text - it is time consuming. Blondes have to concerntrate especially if your reflection is in the phone glass.
He is a great bowler however he brought disreput to the baggy green when he took the actions he and Mark did in India. To this day he will always be the one who disgraced us and our game.
I'd like to know his wicket average as it would then show how great he is not simply the number of wickets as he has played far more games than many of our greatest cricketing heros.
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Post by marinermum on Jan 3, 2007 16:46:18 GMT 10
Simone is a white empty bag. Who looks good until she opens her mouth
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