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Post by Fish on Aug 29, 2005 21:34:35 GMT 10
Never mind boys.It is always going to be tough for some to make things in work hours as long as were there this weekend it'll all be ok.Im with GB Im not lame either
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Post by DJ on Aug 29, 2005 21:36:33 GMT 10
Never mind boys.It is always going to be tough for some to make things in work hours as long as were there this weekend it'll all be ok.Im with GB Im not lame either I'll be there nice and early on Sunday - I have taken a day off to recover too
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Post by Fish on Aug 29, 2005 21:39:41 GMT 10
Thats the spirit DJ can I assume Froggy will be in fine form for the opener
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Post by DJ on Aug 29, 2005 21:42:33 GMT 10
Thats the spirit DJ can I assume Froggy will be in fine form for the opener Of course, Sarah is working so Froggy is allowed out to play ....... lol
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Post by Fish on Aug 29, 2005 21:51:36 GMT 10
and play he does(all above board)
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Post by Ursus on Aug 30, 2005 13:49:38 GMT 10
for those who really care there are ways of working around things - arrange with your boss to have a longer lunch break and work the extra half hour like i am doing - have someone cover your shift for twenty minutes longer during your lunch break - have your friends take lecture notes for you - reschedule your group meeting (i'm sure people in your uni group do it to you all the time) possibilities are endless and all i am hearing is excuses where there is a will there is a way this was a time the club really needed us and we let them down it was for the front page of the sun weekly's edition that will go to thousand of homes throughout the central coast and we get a lame five people for the supporter's photo it was embarassing saying to the express reporters I don't know where everyone is Mick your comments are over the top. You have put in a Herculean effort to get the Marinators off the ground and we are all in your debt. However that does not give you the right for the above serve. You put out a call for 10-20 marinators to appear at Gosford stadium with gear at midday on a weekday. You got 5 positive responses and then get disappointed when only 5 show up. I am impressed that you got that many. Many of us are prepared to put ourselves out to varying degrees but with short notice it is sometimes not possible and there are not always "ways of working around things", not everyone can drop what they are doing work wise and pick it up later. The newspaper has a hide to think that you can drum up 20 supporters at the drop of a hat at a time of their choosing. There have been many opportunities for them to get a shot this year, if they were organised. The above serve will not help the future.
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Post by marinermick on Aug 30, 2005 13:55:49 GMT 10
for those who really care there are ways of working around things - arrange with your boss to have a longer lunch break and work the extra half hour like i am doing - have someone cover your shift for twenty minutes longer during your lunch break - have your friends take lecture notes for you - reschedule your group meeting (i'm sure people in your uni group do it to you all the time) possibilities are endless and all i am hearing is excuses where there is a will there is a way this was a time the club really needed us and we let them down it was for the front page of the sun weekly's edition that will go to thousand of homes throughout the central coast and we get a lame five people for the supporter's photo it was embarassing saying to the express reporters I don't know where everyone is Mick your comments are over the top. You have put in a Herculean effort to get the Marinators off the ground and we are all in your debt. However that does not give you the right for the above serve. You put out a call for 10-20 marinators to appear at Gosford stadium with gear at midday on a weekday. You got 5 positive responses and then get disappointed when only 5 show up. I am impressed that you got that many. Many of us are prepared to put ourselves out to varying degrees but with short notice it is sometimes not possible and there are not always "ways of working around things", not everyone can drop what they are doing work wise and pick it up later. The newspaper has a hide to think that you can drum up 20 supporters at the drop of a hat at a time of their choosing. There have been many opportunities for them to get a shot this year, if they were organised. The above serve will not help the future. not over the top the newspaper quite reasonably thought we would be keen enough to support the mariners and get our own name there and even gave us four three days notice that was the only opportunity to get us with a player the express gave us one days notice - that's how media works five people from how many marinators? sorry, that's just plain crap and deserving of a serve given that this sunday is the most important day for the mariners
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Post by pieman on Aug 30, 2005 14:36:08 GMT 10
Mick I have to agree with many posters. mid week is not easy for people to attend. I was on Holiday last week and didn't return till sunday but still would not be able to attend lunch time is a busy time for me. newspapers believe the world is at their beck and call and it's not alway's possible. Althought it may be a missed opporunity to promote the marinators further, having ago at the guy's/girls in bay 16 is not fair.
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Post by marinermick on Aug 30, 2005 14:52:48 GMT 10
Mick I have to agree with many posters. mid week is not easy for people to attend. I was on Holiday last week and didn't return till sunday but still would not be able to attend lunch time is a busy time for me. newspapers believe the world is at their beck and call and it's not alway's possible. Althought it may be a missed opporunity to promote the marinators further, having ago at the guy's/girls in bay 16 is not fair. where there is a will there is a way there are people who have committments they just can't get out of however, all i'm saying is that 5 marinators is just crap and three days notice is not being at a paper's beckon call - it is actually quite reasonable for a newspaper
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Post by brett on Aug 30, 2005 15:12:11 GMT 10
-out of the people that read this thread, im sure everyone who was possibly able to get there did. -if everyone with a marinators shirt knew about it we would have got the 20. -its not like people knew about this opportunity but dont care about the mariners. -also what is reasonable for a newspaper isnt necessarily reasonable for someone else.
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Post by DJ on Aug 30, 2005 15:15:15 GMT 10
Lets just leave this thread alone! It's creating Marinator negativity and that's the last thing we want before the opening A-League game in Gosford.
Mick - yes some people need a bit of a kick up the backside to be more involved in Marinator stuff outside of Bay 16, and yes I would have hoped for more than 5 out of 300 odd could have made it.
However some people do have commitments and 1 working day (I know the weekend was also included in the time scale but most companys work on working days) is not enough for people to re-arrange their work, uni, exams, study time etc. Those who can, and those who attended, thank you!
Why they could not take a picture of Bay 16 at the pre-season cup of all the Marinators I find odd considering their photographers were there, hense the photo in the paper where they referred to us as a section of the crowd.
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Post by marinermick on Aug 30, 2005 15:19:15 GMT 10
Lets just leave this thread alone! It's creating Marinator negativity and that's the last thing we want before the opening A-League game in Gosford. Mick - yes some people need a bit of a kick up the backside to be more involved in Marinator stuff outside of Bay 16, and yes I would have hoped for more than 5 out of 300 odd could have made it. However some people do have commitments and 1 working day (I know the weekend was also included in the time scale but most companys work on working days) is not enough for people to re-arrange their work, uni, exams, study time etc. Those who can, and those who attended, thank you! Why they could not take a picture of Bay 16 at the pre-season cup of all the Marinators I find odd considering their photographers were there, hense the photo in the paper where they referred to us as a section of the crowd. because they needed a player amoungst the photo why are we lambasting a newspaper and using them as a scape goat for our own paltry excuses when they are going to provide massive coverage for the mariners this week? again poor form
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Post by yellowcake on Aug 30, 2005 15:25:51 GMT 10
Time out!!
This is a debate that could be argued strongly on either side - although I do feel (especially for Mick) that its unfortunate that a great opportunity was lost. But it's gonna stay lost so don't let the debate cause more damage.
One thing (that'll never see the light of day, unfortunately) is that it somewhat dispells the myth about the Coast, that we're nothing but bludgers - when for many, commitments to work or uni deterred them from what they'd really rather be doing.
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Post by DJ on Aug 30, 2005 15:33:12 GMT 10
Lets just leave this thread alone! It's creating Marinator negativity and that's the last thing we want before the opening A-League game in Gosford. Mick - yes some people need a bit of a kick up the backside to be more involved in Marinator stuff outside of Bay 16, and yes I would have hoped for more than 5 out of 300 odd could have made it. However some people do have commitments and 1 working day (I know the weekend was also included in the time scale but most companys work on working days) is not enough for people to re-arrange their work, uni, exams, study time etc. Those who can, and those who attended, thank you! Why they could not take a picture of Bay 16 at the pre-season cup of all the Marinators I find odd considering their photographers were there, hense the photo in the paper where they referred to us as a section of the crowd. because they needed a player amoungst the photo why are we lambasting a newspaper and using them as a scape goat for our own paltry excuses when they are going to provide massive coverage for the mariners this week? again poor form Each to their own! I tried to change my lunch break but couldn't due to my working environment so work comes first sorry as they pay my wage, which pays my loans? where is the excuse in that? So I'm not using the paper as an excuse, and yes It is a shame they referred to us a section of the crowd! We have a name!
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Post by marinermick on Aug 30, 2005 15:36:35 GMT 10
well the reporter and photographer was a bit more educated after a long chat with fish on monday - that's the whole idea of getting out there in numbers and educating a non-football media
as i have said some people had commitments they couldn't get out of and i am not blaming any particular person but this is not the case for all of us
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Post by brett on Aug 30, 2005 15:47:08 GMT 10
like i said, there were probably less than 30 people total that read this. its not like a couple of hundred people knew about it and didnt make the effort to go. it's generally disappointing overall, sure, a good opportunity was missed. but there would probably be one or two individuals tops that actually knew exactly when and where to be but couldnt be bothered.
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Post by kevrenor on Aug 30, 2005 15:51:53 GMT 10
like i said, there were probably less than 30 people total that read this. its not like a couple of hundred people knew about it and didnt make the effort to go. it's generally disappointing overall, sure, a good opportunity was missed. but there would probably be one or two individuals tops that actually knew exactly when and where to be but couldnt be bothered. Good opportunity but the times are to suit the paper - which makes it hard. If it had been 7am or 5pm it could be different - who knows!. Perhaps we need to get a core Marinators email/phone list together for use only in such short notice times. We've come a long way, and a huge amount of that is down to Marinermick. He has a right to his say! Other than that I agree - time out! Let's focus on Sunday!
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Post by yellowcake on Aug 30, 2005 16:18:03 GMT 10
.... there were probably less than 30 people total that read this .... Aw, WT - I think you're underselling this forum Now 455 members and I wonder how many guest readers (even if > 1/3 of all posts belong to you, Mick or Omni!) Wouldn't think they'd all vanish between the A-League launch and our first home game - BIG days
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Post by yellowcake on Aug 30, 2005 16:24:31 GMT 10
Does 50 = Local league player?
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Post by kevrenor on Aug 30, 2005 16:33:51 GMT 10
.... there were probably less than 30 people total that read this .... Aw, WT - I think you're underselling this forum Now 455 members and I wonder how many guest readers (even if > 1/3 of all posts belong to you, Mick or Omni!) Wouldn't think they'd all vanish between the A-League launch and our first home game - BIG days The 455 includes multis, Trolls, casual visitors from other clubs, those who inexplicably join but never post - perhaps they view!?. There are also those who view but havn't joined - my youngest is a case in point! The core readership that also post is about 90-100. Of those the 'usual suspects' number about 25-30. Also last night at 9pm there were between 12-18 on the Marinators.net site.
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