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Post by marinermick on Feb 20, 2006 15:03:46 GMT 10
The next two weeks will see both Travis Dodd and Carney terrorising the left side of our defence.
Should we move Wilko to left back and put Heff on the right so it will give more space for Heff to go, go, go?
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Post by DJ on Feb 20, 2006 15:08:38 GMT 10
Never seen Heffo on the right? Wilko could certainly slot into the left back role thou. I know we have leaked a lot of goals from that side of the field this year but why change an unbeaten formula with 2 games to go?
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Post by brett on Feb 20, 2006 15:10:48 GMT 10
I would put wilko left, ossie right (if he is ok) and heff up the wing.
then next year i'd play 3-5-2 like we should have been all along.
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Post by offtheball on Feb 20, 2006 15:14:22 GMT 10
What happened to Ossie?
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Post by Farthing on Feb 20, 2006 15:16:07 GMT 10
I would put wilko left, ossie right (if he is ok) and heff up the wing. Thats the way i wouldnt mind it being played but we have been going good with this back line so we may as well not change it |
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Post by marinermick on Feb 20, 2006 15:19:59 GMT 10
I would put wilko left, ossie right (if he is ok) and heff up the wing. Thats the way i wouldnt mind it being played but we have been going good with this back line so we may as well not change it in all honesty i don't think we have been going good with this formation on the defensive side of things |
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Post by Farthing on Feb 20, 2006 15:28:43 GMT 10
Thats the way i wouldnt mind it being played but we have been going good with this back line so we may as well not change it in all honesty i don't think we have been going good with this formation on the defensive side of things Yea we have done well on the defence all year and one thing that has helped us too is no major injures to our defence |
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Post by marinermick on Feb 20, 2006 15:32:02 GMT 10
in all honesty i don't think we have been going good with this formation on the defensive side of things Yea we have done well on the defence all year and one thing that has helped us too is no major injures to our defence overall we have done well defensively but not on our left-hand side review where we have leaked most of our goals this year |
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Post by kevrenor on Feb 20, 2006 15:35:22 GMT 10
Yea we have done well on the defence all year and one thing that has helped us too is no major injures to our defence Overall we have done well defensively but not on our left-hand side - review where we have leaked most of our goals this year Odd, my recollection is we have 'leaked' goals straight down the middle! |
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Post by marinermick on Feb 20, 2006 15:38:12 GMT 10
Overall we have done well defensively but not on our left-hand side - review where we have leaked most of our goals this year Odd, my recollection is we have 'leaked' goals straight down the middle! no, review them post xmas: v newcastle nye - cross from our left to coveney v sydney - carney carving down our left and cut inside v melbourne - ferrante carving down our left to the middle v newcastle - thompson unmarked on our left and that is just post xmas |
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Post by marinermick on Feb 20, 2006 15:40:50 GMT 10
and every week teams are hitting our left side harder and harder
with the prospect of playing dodd and carney in the next two weeks i think heff should be relieved of defensive duties and giving the free reign to attack
this begs the other question - does wilko have the pace to contain dodd and carney?
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Post by DJ on Feb 20, 2006 15:41:17 GMT 10
The last goal from the right side that I can remember off the top of my head was Sydney at home? But of course we had 10 men.
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Post by marinermick on Feb 20, 2006 15:43:48 GMT 10
The last goal from the right side that I can remember off the top of my head was Sydney at home? But of course we had 10 men. that's the last one i can remember as well - petrovski's |
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Post by kevrenor on Feb 20, 2006 15:52:49 GMT 10
Odd, my recollection is we have 'leaked' goals straight down the middle! no, review them, post xmas: and that is just post xmas v newcastle nye - cross from our left to coveny - granted v sydney - carney carving down our left and cut inside - I wasn't there! v melbourne - ferrante carving down our left to the middle - I wasn't there! lol v newcastle - thompson unmarked on our left - he was just to the his right and well outside the penalty area - midfielders job! Think - sheepshagers - 2 goals straight down the middle Think Adelaide - 2 goals straight down the middle Think - Roar - Brosque - 2 goals down the middle (or even to our right) |
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Post by brett on Feb 20, 2006 15:53:29 GMT 10
Odd, my recollection is we have 'leaked' goals straight down the middle! no, review them post xmas: v newcastle nye - cross from our left to coveney v sydney - carney carving down our left and cut inside v melbourne - ferrante carving down our left to the middle v newcastle - thompson unmarked on our left and that is just post xmas all four goals caught heff out positionally, on the carney one he sort of lunged in as well though. carney and ferrante's were also beauchamps fault though, he let them cut inside him to shoot from in front of the goals instead of forcing them wide. his one weakness is not ushering the attacker towards the byline. the other night heff was out of position again when he was too far back and let coveny beat the offside trap but he used his pace to get across and block, then there was the other one where coveny ran straight past beauchamp but heff was super quick over 40 metres to make that awesome tackle. so his all-action style worked ok but i'd rather see 4 tight marking, well positioned, solid boys. |
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Post by kevrenor on Feb 20, 2006 15:53:38 GMT 10
The next two weeks will see both Travis Dodd and Carney terrorising the left side of our defence. Should we move Wilko to left back and put Heff on the right so it will give more space for Heff to go, go, go? No! As Lawrie said at the press conference - if it isn't broke don't fix it! They are just as likely to play either side anyway! Dodd has been mainly on the left and Carney on the right but they are more naturally the other way around! |
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Post by DJ on Feb 20, 2006 15:54:54 GMT 10
this begs the other question - does wilko have the pace to contain dodd and carney? do many people have the pace to contain them? |
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Post by brett on Feb 20, 2006 15:56:47 GMT 10
no, review them, post xmas: and that is just post xmas v newcastle nye - cross from our left to coveny - granted v sydney - carney carving down our left and cut inside - I wasn't there! v melbourne - ferrante carving down our left to the middle - I wasn't there! lol v newcastle - thompson unmarked on our left - he was just to the his right and well outside the penalty area - midfielders job! Think - sheepshagers - 2 goals straight down the middle Think Adelaide - 2 goals straight down the middle Think - Roar - Brosque - 2 goals down the middle (or even to our right) check the replay on thompsons - it was heffs job. heff was standing closer to the sideline than thommo marking no one. fair point about down the middle on some of those, beauchamp was at fault for a couple, but he stops more than he lets in. heff on the other hand just personally scores more than he lets in! |
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Post by marinermick on Feb 20, 2006 16:02:43 GMT 10
v newcastle nye - cross from our left to coveny - granted v sydney - carney carving down our left and cut inside - I wasn't there! v melbourne - ferrante carving down our left to the middle - I wasn't there! lol v newcastle - thompson unmarked on our left - he was just to the his right and well outside the penalty area - midfielders job! Think - sheepshagers - 2 goals straight down the middle Think Adelaide - 2 goals straight down the middle Think - Roar - Brosque - 2 goals down the middle (or even to our right) check the replay on thompsons - it was heffs job. heff was standing closer to the sideline than thommo marking no one. fair point about down the middle on some of those, beauchamp was at fault for a couple, but he stops more than he lets in. heff on the other hand just personally scores more than he lets in! also note the two goals newcastle should have scored first leg was down that side as well |
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Post by brett on Feb 20, 2006 16:10:03 GMT 10
^^^those first leg chances weren't really heff. the first one ossie and heff both didnt pick up thommo and stood flat but the second kohler one was an excellent one-touch move with backheels from carle and milicic. nothing the defence could do. with those players i dont know why newcastle dont play that way more often.
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