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Post by thesandman on Oct 12, 2007 7:35:45 GMT 10
Fair call. My main point in it being weak is that they know they would've suffered a great deal more if it was handled appropriately at the time.
Once could argue that an on-field argument is different to an off-field one, although that may be a weak one.
You could argue that Mrdja did cop punishment, so further punishment from the club is unnecessary.
Also, weren't there mitigating circumstances regarding medication that he didn't realise would affect alcohol or something? I can't remember.
Argue how you like, but you can't say that a fine of 2 week's wages is anything more than a token punishment.
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Post by newieutd on Oct 12, 2007 7:41:06 GMT 10
Fair call. My main point in it being weak is that they know they would've suffered a great deal more if it was handled appropriately at the time. Once could argue that an on-field argument is different to an off-field one, although that may be a weak one. You could argue that Mrdja did cop punishment, so further punishment from the club is unnecessary. Also, weren't there mitigating circumstances regarding medication that he didn't realise would affect alcohol or something? I can't remember. Argue how you like, but you can't say that a fine of 2 week's wages is anything more than a token punishment. I wasnt argueing. I was just asking the question on the a-league as a whole 2 weeks wages for me is nothing, 2 weeks for him would be the same. So yes it is a token punishment. Mrdja did not cop any penalty. Has any club added or penalised a player in the a-league??? |
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Post by offtheball on Oct 12, 2007 8:50:52 GMT 10
It's not even a two week fine!
One week fine with the other week suspended.
If he was fair dinkum he would come out and donate the other week up front.
What does he have to do to have the 2nd week invoked?
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Oct 12, 2007 9:33:55 GMT 10
. just watched the clip again - unintentional my arse! he clenches his jaw as he starts his backhander. he pulls it as he realises what he's about to do, but makes contact all the same. unintentional like f***. tbh - i'm not sure whether the jets can/should do anything 'right' on this, i'm leaning towards the conclusion that they should have simply said nothing at all and if quizzed they should have replied 'it's a matter for the FFA'. i don't think it is up to the clubs themselves to police on-field behaviour, because for a start that removes some of the responsibility from the FFA. but it also undermines the authority of the match officials because they're essentially saying the officials haven't punished him enough. goes for mrdja as well. as for o'grady - i'm sure the club and the player came to their own understanding after that. i don't recall if there was a fine or other punishment made public. |
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Post by marinermick on Oct 12, 2007 10:36:34 GMT 10
. just watched the clip again - unintentional my arse! he clenches his jaw as he starts his backhander. he pulls it as he realises what he's about to do, but makes contact all the same. unintentional like f***. tbh - i'm not sure whether the jets can/should do anything 'right' on this, i'm leaning towards the conclusion that they should have simply said nothing at all and if quizzed they should have replied 'it's a matter for the FFA'. i don't think it is up to the clubs themselves to police on-field behaviour, because for a start that removes some of the responsibility from the FFA. but it also undermines the authority of the match officials because they're essentially saying the officials haven't punished him enough. goes for mrdja as well. as for o'grady - i'm sure the club and the player came to their own understanding after that. i don't recall if there was a fine or other punishment made public. watching football fever last night robbie slater finally made an excellent point on the griffiths affair and the inability of the referee to back his assistant he said "c'mon guys, how do you expect us to back the match officials when you won't back your own!" |
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Post by uncleyellow on Oct 12, 2007 10:44:01 GMT 10
....and Harper gave him a mild public drubbing too, which was more than I thought they would say about it.
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Post by marinermick on Oct 12, 2007 10:48:44 GMT 10
....and Harper gave him a mild public drubbing too, which was more than I thought they would say about it. though harper still looked like he wet his pants when he mentioned juninho as the best of the brazilian imports |
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Post by uncleyellow on Oct 12, 2007 11:28:19 GMT 10
Probably the only thing an FC fan could get excited about at the Mo...
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Post by bikinigirl on Oct 12, 2007 12:23:12 GMT 10
he clenches his jaw as he starts his backhander. he pulls it as he realises what he's about to do, but makes contact all the same. unintentional like f***. tbh - i'm not sure whether the jets can/should do anything 'right' on this, i'm leaning towards the conclusion that they should have simply said nothing at all and if quizzed they should have replied 'it's a matter for the FFA'. i don't think it is up to the clubs themselves to police on-field behaviour, because for a start that removes some of the responsibility from the FFA. but it also undermines the authority of the match officials because they're essentially saying the officials haven't punished him enough. goes for mrdja as well. as for o'grady - i'm sure the club and the player came to their own understanding after that. i don't recall if there was a fine or other punishment made public. watching football fever last night robbie slater finally made an excellent point on the griffiths affair and the inability of the referee to back his assistant he said "c'mon guys, how do you expect us to back the match officials when you won't back your own!" . i think it is not the only area they have let themselves down in this regard - they have muddied the waters by the way they treat the players . too often you see them (players & officials) patting one another on the back and all that sort of stuff . don't use names, its too personal and friendly - players have numbers and the referee is sir. but there should be NO physical contact (except maybe a handshake before and after the game) |
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Post by Andy on Oct 12, 2007 13:28:23 GMT 10
Getting fined 2 weeks wages is a token effort - if they were serious, they'd suspend him. Still, better than nothing I suppose - and at least they have set a precedent in the league for some self-discipline. Serious question, did you guys suspend your drink driver? I know you guys didnt suspend Mrdja Why would we have suspended him? There is a big difference between a bad tackle and punching an official. |
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Post by omni on Oct 12, 2007 19:54:02 GMT 10
What would have happened if Glasgow hit Griffiths?
2 week fine is crap, still waiting on that apology, they should make him serve as a referee for a few years, on the Central Coast.
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Post by apolloworm on Oct 15, 2007 0:02:47 GMT 10
well i think brad porter should of givin the ref a old fasion beating after some of his calls tonight, truley a disgrace and a tarnish on wat could have been a great game, i am outraged, brad porter wat a great challenge, just attempting to recindle some of the mariners glory of 05/06 wat a great year.
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