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Post by Fish on Apr 9, 2007 21:57:55 GMT 10
Trial him WTF how good do you think this league is lol.If any club has the funds to gain his services the man would pick himself every week hell he would probably pick the team.World class talent comes at a world class cost
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Post by Pete on Apr 9, 2007 22:30:54 GMT 10
Trial him WTF how good do you think this league is lol.If any club has the funds to gain his services the man would pick himself every week hell he would probably pick the team.World class talent comes at a world class cost How good do I think this league is? About as good as anyone who puts their money where their mouth is, is prepared to let it be. Keep thinking it's an inferior product, and we'll forever get has- beens and sheisters hitting the clubs with resumes and calls from agents. For now, it's the premier league for football in Australia, and it should be told to those interested in playing here from overseas, that that is the way we want it stay. There is definite room for improvement in all aspects of HAL, but if we keep scoffing at suggestions we apply high standards to playing operations matters and recruitment, it is only going to denigrate what we have already achieved. If Salas has been playing the last season at the top level of Chilean football then there's no doubt he's fit (barring injury) and more than sharp enough to take the field of any HAL club. If, on the other hand, he was 35 and had only played from the bench or been playing in their second division, then you'd have to start wondering if he was up to the task of being the marquee player. |
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Post by Fish on Apr 9, 2007 22:48:14 GMT 10
Never said the league was inferior.I was simply asking was it realy valid to question the playing ability of elite players of the nature of Salas to trial.He isnt obviously washed up or in the same category as the inept Brian Deane/Nicola Berti.As for putting my money where my mouth is I think I have spent enough to have an opinion in a product I strongly believe is working and will continue to do so.
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Post by blackadder on Apr 10, 2007 10:15:09 GMT 10
nicola berti was how old i cant recall? I think he was late 30's from memory, just goes to show a good resume means bugger all if they aren't trialled first. |
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Post by Jesus on Apr 10, 2007 11:41:53 GMT 10
If they are late 30's i agree give him a trial. But he is 32. Assuming we all agree a players prime is about 28, he is far from out of it as far as age goes. He is playing in a major south american club. You watch how he played for the season.
Asking him to trial is a slap in the face. If you watch the tapes and dont think he still has it, dont offer him a contract. If you like what you see on the tapes, give him a physical to check for injuries, if none, then sign him up. Asking for a trial is saying you do all the work, we dont really think enough of you to go find the tapes ourselves.
32 does not equal 36+.
Major south american club does not equal Serie c3
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Post by marinermick on Apr 10, 2007 11:50:20 GMT 10
If they are late 30's i agree give him a trial. But he is 32. Assuming we all agree a players prime is about 28, he is far from out of it as far as age goes. He is playing in a major south american club. You watch how he played for the season. Asking him to trial is a slap in the face. If you watch the tapes and dont think he still has it, dont offer him a contract. If you like what you see on the tapes, give him a physical to check for injuries, if none, then sign him up. Asking for a trial is saying you do all the work, we dont really think enough of you to go find the tapes ourselves. 32 does not equal 36+. Major south american club does not equal Serie c3 agree totally jesus to ask for a trial would be an insult to a player of his pedigree and current ability we signed damian mori without asking for a trial, yet he was 36 and playing state league in adelaide anyway, we can't afford him and our only hope would be singo, who does not know him if we could get him he would undoubtably be the best player to have graced the a-league so far ahead of dwight yorke |
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Post by mustapha_beer on Apr 10, 2007 12:46:14 GMT 10
If they are late 30's i agree give him a trial. But he is 32. Assuming we all agree a players prime is about 28, he is far from out of it as far as age goes. He is playing in a major south american club. You watch how he played for the season. Asking him to trial is a slap in the face. If you watch the tapes and dont think he still has it, dont offer him a contract. If you like what you see on the tapes, give him a physical to check for injuries, if none, then sign him up. Asking for a trial is saying you do all the work, we dont really think enough of you to go find the tapes ourselves. 32 does not equal 36+. Major south american club does not equal Serie c3 agree totally jesus to ask for a trial would be an insult to a player of his pedigree and current ability we signed damian mori without asking for a trial, yet he was 36 and playing state league in adelaide anyway, we can't afford him and our only hope would be singo, who does not know him if we could get him he would undoubtably be the best player to have graced the a-league so far ahead of dwight yorke Couldn't agree LESS. Assuming, for arguments sake, that there is a chance of signing the guy, he would not come cheap. Mariners are not the kind of club that can afford to write off expensive mistakes (the same could probably be said for the other clubs in the league), and we need to be sure that the guy's performances will justify the outlay. Also, I'm not sure the situation with Mori was the same thing. He was in the same country, playing in a league which would have been a similar style to the A-league, and would surely have been watched first hand rather than just relying on videotapes. Basically, if the guy would be too precious to undergo some sort of trial, then shelve him and move onto other targets. |
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Post by northernspirit on Apr 10, 2007 15:57:37 GMT 10
i wouldnt be so quick to dismiss him
he has enormous potential even not at the peak of his powers
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Post by ryan on Apr 10, 2007 15:59:19 GMT 10
Salas would not trial and should not have to. I think asking any possible marquee signings to trial is completely unrealistic. Would we ask Del Piero, Ibrahimovich or Nedved to trial. No way in the world and Salas is in that class.
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Post by northernspirit on Apr 10, 2007 16:26:08 GMT 10
agree with ryan 100%
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Post by Jesus on Apr 10, 2007 16:37:44 GMT 10
How you could feel that there is no need to trial someone from the inferior SA Premier league, who is 38, but need to trial someone at 32, with massive experience that outways Mori 100+ times to 1, who is playing in a league of comparable, probably superior quality at a big south american club with a rich history. Makes no sense to me
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Post by northernspirit on Apr 10, 2007 17:10:55 GMT 10
is there any updates re: this lead?
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Post by Rubbernose on Apr 10, 2007 19:49:56 GMT 10
I read he was released from his contract with Uni de Chile because they went bust and were forcibly put in to administration. And that after joining in 2005 he didn't play very much because of injury (as injury prone as always was one description I read), but that when he did play he was still very very good, but perhaps a tad overweight - something that from my memory he always kinda was, a bit?
I woulnd't trial him per se but a medical and a recent photo of Fatty might be prudent.
I guess that for a player of his calibre to be looking at the A-League at 32, you could be forgiven for suspecting there's gotta be something wrong with him, and maybe a weight and/or injury problem would be the main suspects.
He's Italian/Chilean, yeah? I wonder how well his, umm, 'culturally genetic' predisposition to, err, simulation would go down out here. ;D
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Post by northernspirit on Apr 10, 2007 20:39:49 GMT 10
no worse than Fred from MVFC in V2  |
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Post by Jesus on Apr 10, 2007 21:17:58 GMT 10
I think people forget that lifestyle is something the Aleague can laud over a lot of competitions. Footballers dont just move to play, and get paid. Especially when past the climax of their careers. Australia is a nation with alot of appeal. If not, all night dwight would have been no where to be seen
Excuse the allusion to a certain marinators chant...
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Post by northernspirit on Apr 10, 2007 22:06:49 GMT 10
there is that and the fact some players want to be part of a league that is growing and new, a fresh chance to make legends of themselves in a new part of the world...
plus the socceroos expoits in the world cup have given aussie football credibility internationally
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Post by greenpoleffc on Apr 10, 2007 23:32:12 GMT 10
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Post by Pete on Apr 11, 2007 0:00:14 GMT 10
There's also a rumour that New York Red Bulls have an interest in Salas, nothing concrete or official from that club at the moment tho.
It seems that Salas is putting his name around since his release from Universitie (December 06?).
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Post by wombat on Apr 22, 2007 14:20:16 GMT 10
I'll admit that I don't know a lot about him. However after looking at his goal-scoring record and past achievements, i'd love to have him here. Andy. He detroyed England at wembley about 8 or 9 years ago. I think Chile beat us 2.0 and he was clearly the best player on the pitch. Superb player but past his prime. He would be a sensation over here...much better technically than Dwight Yorke. |
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