Adult only Members Section

[hilly2111]

I'm all for parents parents bringing their kids to the game and spending quality time together but as someone without kids and going along to games with other people without kids I start to question the value of having a gold membership.

My reasons are as follows:

Version 1: Went to almost every home game without membership. Had gold equivalent seats at every game. Great time and no incidents.

Version 2: Purchased Gold membership. Got carried away as we usually do with the odd swear word shouting out during the emotion of it all forgetting there were kids behind us. One of the fathers threatened to take us on outside. So of course we moved seats only to find two trumpet blowing kids behind us who didnt seem to run out of breath. We put up with it.

Version 3: We take the same seats as last year to find a new kid behind us that wont shut up and gives a running comantary during the whole game. Such as "why did he do that", "perth suck". Which is fine in small quantities but with a squeaky loud voice the whole game is too much. I find out they are season ticket holders and opt to change seats.

This time we have six small children in front of us. They are well behaved and seem to actually enjoy watching the game without "being kids" all game. Just have to watch my swearing.Behind us however is a row of empty seats which I hold my breath when the next game comes around to who has those seats.

The point I am making is surely there could be a number of non-concession seats grouped together so that adults can say what they want without having to put up with the annoyance of kids that are bored and playing up.

I think it is probably better to not have membership and go casually each week getting different seats each week. If you happen to get annoying kids around then chances are they wont be there next week.

[forzamariners]

Do the parents think they're bringing kids to church?
Football is an emotional sport and emotions can sometimes get out of hand.
Tell the parents to deal with it themselves

[Nah.]

Thats true. you cant expect it to be a totally g rated experience.

Noone should have a go at the adults for swearing, i see just as many, if not more bogan children at games screaming 'hey perth your all a buck of f***ing arse f***ing w******! Go back to f***ing Tasmania!'
they dont even know what they're yelling at.

I've got some family with 3 kids sitting in front of me, one of which actually wants to watch the game Sometimes he shouts (hey Ref! just becuase you live in a cardboard box doesnt mean you have to make the wrong decision!) but never any swearing. The other two kids run around, which annoys the heck out of everyone. Such a waste.


I dont get why you bring your kids if you cant even get them to sit in their seats.

An adults area would be a great idea, although wouldnt there be concern over upsetting ticket sales?
(less children = less money earnt from tickets and several $6 pizzas per game?)

[curious]

Where is it in the forund your sitting?

Noone should have a go at the adults for swearing,

i see just as many, if not more bogan children at games screaming 'hey perth your all a buck of f***ing arse f***ing w******! Go back to f***ing Tasmania!'
they dont even know what they're yelling at.

I would just change that by adding two words.
Noone should need to have a go at the adults for swearing.
Sure , if the you sit with a supporter group we all know what to expect, just like standing on a wet hill at other venues. It's not for the faint hearted & parents can avoid it if they choose.
However, everyone pays to watch, & as some don't like being forced to to listen to kids being annoying, some don't like adults behaving badly with women & kids in close proximinty.
I'm one of them & along with many others in the same boat, would rather stay away if we are forced to cope with it all around us without getting into blues.

i see just as many, if not more bogan children at games screaming 'hey perth your all a buck of f***ing arse f***ing w******! Go back to f***ing Tasmania!'

Where do you think they learned to do it & from whom?
Might have a bit to do with adults examples & language expectations huh. They likely even mimic language they hear in chants.
Sorry fellas, if your an adult around women & kids, your supposed to have more sense than those kids.

[voice of reason]

hilly2111 said:

Got carried away as we usually do with the odd swear word shouting out during the emotion of it all forgetting there were kids behind us. One of the fathers threatened to take us on outside.
.......We take the same seats as last year to find a new kid behind us that wont shut up and gives a running comantary during the whole game. Such as "why did he do that", "perth suck". Which is fine in small quantities but with a squeaky loud voice the whole game is too much.

Anyone else see the irony in this?

[mustapha_beer]

curious said:

Where is it in the forund your sitting?

Where do you think they learned to do it & from whom?
Might have a bit to do with adults examples & language expectations huh. They likely even mimic language they hear in chants.
Sorry fellas, if your an adult around women & kids, your supposed to have more sense than those kids.

Spot on mate.....adults should set some kind of example to kids at games, but are often the worst culprits for misbehaving. Where I sit, near the halfway line, there's a loudmouth a couple of rows back who shouts drivel for almost the whole match. I've no doubt the person in question is having a great time, but for the rest of us who have to put up with them, it's an ordeal.

[DJ]

I don't believe there should be an adult only section.........but I do think there should be a family section.

Gold memberships are very affordable this year so seeing more kids in the gold sections around the ground is going to happen.

[yellowcake]

There is (and always has been) an adults only section (i.e. no concessions /family rates of any sort)...

...it's called Platinum.

It's pretty affordable too if your only having to buy one for yourself.

[Perm]

things wont change and an adult only section is ludacris.
the best bet of getting away with swearing and getting caught in the emotion, is to stand with the Marinators.

[DJ]

afrosean said:

things wont change and an adult only section is ludacris.
the best bet of getting away with swearing and getting caught in the emotion, is to stand with the Marinators.

I don't like the curly haired muppet but he has a point..........

[ceburoo]

yellowcake said:

There is (and always has been) an adults only section (i.e. no concessions /family rates of any sort)...

...it's called Platinum.

It's pretty affordable too if your only having to buy one for yourself.

Im a platinum member and within the area I sit we have children who are platinum members so I doubt that you can call the Platinum area an adults area coz it is not

[Bearinator]

Family section = great idea
Adults only section = trouble

[hilly2111]

Where do you think they learned to do it & from whom?
Might have a bit to do with adults examples & language expectations huh. They likely even mimic language they hear in chants.
Sorry fellas, if your an adult around women & kids, your supposed to have more sense than those kids.

I'm not saying I go to games to swear and yell throughout the game. If there is a near miss then the odd "sh*t" or "f*ck" will come out and if there is repeated mistakes by the mariners then I might come out with the odd "for f*cks sake". I dont mean to do it in front of woman and children but getting caught up with the excitement of the game it does occassionally come out.

I realise an adults only section would be difficult to organise but if it could be done then it would make me feel less guilty and embarressed slipping the odd swear word out in front of woman and children. I wonder if they have similar concerns in the EPL?

[DJ]

hilly2111 said:

Where do you think they learned to do it & from whom?
Might have a bit to do with adults examples & language expectations huh. They likely even mimic language they hear in chants.
Sorry fellas, if your an adult around women & kids, your supposed to have more sense than those kids.

I'm not saying I go to games to swear and yell throughout the game. If there is a near miss then the odd "sh*t" or "f*ck" will come out and if there is repeated mistakes by the mariners then I might come out with the odd "for f*cks sake". I dont mean to do it in front of woman and children but getting caught up with the excitement of the game it does occassionally come out.

I realise an adults only section would be difficult to organise but if it could be done then it would make me feel less guilty and embarressed slipping the odd swear word out in front of woman and children. I wonder if they have similar concerns in the EPL?

hilly - the only thing I can recommend is to contact the club and stress your concerns and recommendations. Unless members give the club feedback they can never improve.

As for similar concerns in the EPL.....no not really, they have family sections and IMO most people who take their kids to an EPL game understand that their child could hear swear words.

[yellowcake]

In many grounds with a 'family' section, it's a relatively small proportion of the ground and is the alcohol-free bay(s). There are plenty of adults with kids who enjoy a bevvy at the game - demonstrating responsible drinking as well as other aspects of spirited support of the Mariners.

I think anybody would realistically expect they'll hear the same words they do in numerous other parts of their existence, even in a family section. (They could hear Wilko last week from any part of the ground ). But if it's extreme, swearing is going to offend reasonably open-minded adults too.

Given the number of kids and their accompanying adults that attend our games (I venture proportionally a lot more than say Sydney), these "family' sections will likely need to occupy 50% or more of Bluetongue to actually segregate kids from those who want to be in a child-free environment.

I completely agree that parents are responsible for minimising their kid's annoying other fans. I'd like to think we're all here for the same thing and can have a bit of tolerance on one side, or on the other hand be prepared to listen to fellow fans concerns, without the "I'll meet you outside after the game" bullshit.

Personally, I think we've got a good mix of fans and like the way it comes together as it does now.

[brett]

Voice of reason: I do detect levels of irony throughout this thread!

If it's the parents' job to keep kids from annoying you throughout the game, it's also your responsibility to watch your language as if you were sitting in front of a TV watching the game with your own kid.

Both of these are hard to manage but the answer isn't an adult's only section.

A family area seems like one sound solution to this problem.

[Rowdy]

The Swearing Thread Version 137#;

FFS! ;D it's like a bad reoccurring nightmare. The foul-mouthed monster that jumps out of the cupboard every year and the first round hasn't even kicked off yet.

The saga continues...... will Pete throw his membership at Ivan again ;D ......will Bay 16 become entirely covered in clear plastic like porn at the newsagent ....stay tuned for next episode in a fortnight's time.

PS: we do play out of Bluetongue , so a little blue language isn't so out of charachter for an Aussie sporting event..

[Pete]

rowdyroddy said:

The Swearing Thread Version 137#;

FFS! ;D it's like a bad reoccurring nightmare. The foul-mouthed monster that jumps out of the cupboard every year and the first round hasn't even kicked off yet.

The saga continues...... will Pete throw his membership at Ivan again ;D ......will Bay 16 become entirely covered in clear plastic like porn at the newsagent ....stay tuned for next episode in a fortnight's time

B**tard! Won't let me live it down will you? ;D
Yeah the swearing issue all over again. This time moved to the stands. Even Roddy and Grunta watch their language up in "The Bleachers" so if they can - anyone can.
For those who want a total non swearing and non drinking, non loutish behaviour section, maybe talk to Ivan and see if there's enough folks wanting a family section next year.
I respect the fact folks may want a G rated experience in the stands with kids, and hold my language even when the ball goes sailing over the top of the goal yet again and we are 1-1 all! Well....not quite, but I try.
It is quite funny tho when a 7 or 8 year old picks up on something Dad, or one of his Marinators mate's said about the ref and next time a decision goes against the Mariners there's this little sqeaky voice at full voice yelling "I'm blind I'm deaf I wanna be a Ref" ;D Gold moments for sure.

[Grunta]

I always imagine an "adults only" section to be behind a seedy curtain and you must be this tall to pass. Sounds great as long as its full of porn!

[~Floss~]

bearinator said:

Family section = great idea
Adults only section = trouble

Spot on.

In addition, the existence of a 'family-friendly' section would imply that those who choose not to sit there are prepared to tolerate a certain (i.e. reasonable) level of drinking, swearing, etc.

A designated "dry" bay or section would most likely evolve into a family area.

Would be interesting to find out how many other clubs have something like this in place already... and whether or not it only comes about as a response to multiple behavioural complaints.