Round 11 Fixtures & Results

[oziboy]

mariners4ever both Tuggerah and Gavenlock were closed as well as Terrigal and some other field's that's why the games were there in the first place.
The cricket pitch is there as it is at other grounds on the coast would be better if it was like Pat Morley between the fields, then wouldn't be a problem.
The point is that it was considered good enough for otherteams to play there but not 16A's ?, so is the referee's association ruling only to allocate games there that aren't 16A's at Maidenbrush or is the field now closed to "Football".
I honestly would think if it's not "safe" for 16 A's it's not safe for 16 C's or in fact any "Football" side.
Then again most players just want to get out there and play. !!

[benchwarmer]

Well as stated before, "lets not let the facts get in the way of a good story", gee that Tuggerah coach must have some pull to be able to influence the ref and the opposition coach, please! The ref determined that Under 16A's played a much faster game than any played previously that day and in his wisdom in his words "pulled the pin" . Both coaches were asked if they wanted to play, as in not take the field and both said yes they would play, the ref did not want to accept liability if any player was injured on the ground, common sense really. As for the referee director being related to one of the players, couldnt tell you but his name is Darren I think and a phone call was made to him, he thought the ground was covered. Mariners$ever does not make his age known, but at 16 if he wants to make public comment without first asking salient questions then the responses he gets are probably based on the fact that he is making adult comment in the first place, I admire him for stepping forward and doing so in the first place but he needs to know ALL of the facts. No reply required.

[mariners4ever]

thanks for clearing that up oziboy.

but the CCSA SHOULD'VE checked ALL grounds at the start of the season and at times like what happened yesterday. i wouldnt be surprised if the ref, and the 2 coaches went to the association and asked for the field to be closed or get the council to fix maidensbrush.as most if not all my home games are at maidensbrush.

[benchwarmer]

Sorry one last comment, as a parent of a 16 year old Tuggerah player I have just been informed that the coach has drafted a letter to the CCFA asking that the game be rescheduled and has actually spoken to the Gosfrod coach in relation to where, and when.

[mariners4ever]

hey bench warmer, if the referees director knew how bad the field was at maidensbrush he should told the ref of my game to cancel my game aswell

[thesandman]

oziboy - I can't answer all your questions because I don't know the facts - the only people that do aren't on here.

As for why it was unsafe for one match and not another, it's possible the referee simply hadn't noticed the unsafe part of the field (possibly by not inspecting the field prior to the first match) for the C's, but once it was drawn to his attention agreed that it was unsafe. I strongly doubt anybody on the referee's board would have had any input to the referee on abandoning the match, apart from making a recommendation on evidence given. As to why they went over his head, who knows? I myself have had people from teams ring me over issues with referees (such as asking what the jewellery policy is as the referee isn't allowing a player to wear something on the field that they can't remove.

Anyway, it's probablya pointless debate - we can keep hypothesising but ultimately the decision was made, and we don't know all the facts.

Those cricket pitches overlapping onto fields can be quite dangerous and have resulted in a number of matches not starting in the past.

[offtheball]

mariners4ever said:

hey bench warmer, if the referees director knew how bad the field was at maidensbrush he should told the ref of my game to cancel my game aswell

Maybe your coach should have brought it to the referees director's attention. Then no doubt he would have made the same call.

As far as I know Darren Sprod has no relationship to any player in either team.

Mariners4ever's mates in the Gosford team were ready and willing to play, so too the boys from Tuggerah they were greatly diappointed the game was abandoned. Sometimes wise decisions need to be made for 16 year old boys, in their best interests. That's why we have adults making such decisions.

I'm not sure why Tuggerah is copping the flack over this. The Gosford coach also stated the ground was unsafe. He simply wanted an assurance that the game would be replayed, everyone there was 99% sure that would happen but no one was in a position of authority to say so 100%.

Just for interest sake are there any other grounds on the coast that have an un covered cricket pitch running down the middle?

As for the game running late and being shortened this had nothing to do with discussions about the safety of the ground. The 16C game was also shortened and still didn't finish till about 3:50. By the time discussions were entered into it would have been well after 4pm when the 16A's could have kicked off.

[Andy]

offtheball said:

Just for interest sake are there any other grounds on the coast that have an un covered cricket pitch running down the middle?

There's one on SEU2 at James Brown Oval.

[thesandman]

mariners4eva seems to be taking a lot of offence to this referee's decision, considering the decision didn't actually affect him (Aside from him not being able to watch a cracker of a match)...

Hmm, I'm at SEU2 myself......

Terrigal has a pitch next to the field, but with that really hard ground around pitches making it borderline dangerous at times, same as Fagans.

[pubbrawler]

MAA5,s Avoca 2 def woy woy 1 and it was a nice clean game too!

[oziboy]

benchwarmer the "facts" are seeming to get distorted by you
You just said " Both coaches were asked if they wanted to play, as in not take the field and both said yes they would play" previously you said “I can tell you exactly what was said, the Gosford and Tuggerah coaches had a discussion with the referees director who advised that he didnt think the ground was safe.” Who called the referees director ? Tuggerah coach or Gosford coach please tell me I assume he wasn’t at the game. ? I would not think they would call him on clarification of playing a game if they wanted it to go ahead with it would you. ?

As asked before isn’t the refeering director of the Central Coast Referee’s a parent of a player in the game and one who is in the Tuggerah side. ?
“couldnt tell you but his name is Darren I think” please don’t state this as it is not a “fact”.
“Mariners4ever does not make his age known, “ just to help you here when he plays in 16 C’s one would assume he is 16 years or younger.!!
“ hey bench warmer, if the referees director knew how bad the field was at maidensbrush he should told the ref of my game to cancel my game aswell “ how true ah sorry mariners4ever there’s a different rule for 16 A ‘s it seem’s.

Unfortunately there are a number of cricket pitches on the coast in the middle of football fields and games are played on them week in and week out.

[offtheball]

Unfortunately there are a number of cricket pitches on the coast in the middle of football fields and games are played on them week in and week out.

[/quote]
Easily fixed either cover the concrete wicket or don't use those grounds.

Just because teams have been foolish enough to play on these grounds in the past and been lucky enough not to be injured doesn't mean it has been justified.


Two grounds mentioned as Fagan Park and Duffy Road both turf wickets.

[roonytunes]

SEU 2 at james brown has a cricket pitch, but it is covered with astro turf and is the same level as the rest of the field - not ideal but not dangerous either, in fact much better than trying to put sods of turf over it and hoping it grows like they used too. I didn't even notice it yesterday when we played there, to be honest. A bare concrete slab 5cm below the rest of the field level, now that's a recipe for injury ...

[hilly1981]

Yeah I would also like to know why a ground would have to be considered 'A' grade playing standard safe to be played on, but ok for lower grades?

Thats a pretty ordinary attitude to have. All players safety is important no matter what the skill level. In all honesty after watching a few of these 'A' games I have seen better quality lower grade games. Some kids are only playing in the top grade because mummy or daddy pulled some strings and got them in the team afterall!

I think some people just need to get their head out of their arse and stop thinking their kid is currently playing for Manchester United or Real Madrid which entitles them to play on better quality pitches than lower grade players.

This doesnt surprise me though coming from the CCF.

[Andy]

SEU MAA5 lost to Terrigal 3-1.

[T]

roonytunes said:

SEU 2 at james brown has a cricket pitch, but it is covered with astro turf and is the same level as the rest of the field - not ideal but not dangerous either, in fact much better than trying to put sods of turf over it and hoping it grows like they used too. I didn't even notice it yesterday when we played there, to be honest. A bare concrete slab 5cm below the rest of the field level, now that's a recipe for injury ...

I played there today and it definatly wasn't level with the rest of the field. But it did offset the big dip near one of the 18yard boxes.

We held Terrigal AA3s to a 0 all draw. Was a great game with opportunities for both sides. I think we ended up with the majority of the possession in the second half but they were unlucky to have one of their shots hit the post.

[nutmeg]

oziboy said:

mariners4ever both Tuggerah and Gavenlock were closed as well as Terrigal and some other field's that's why the games were there in the first place.
The cricket pitch is there as it is at other grounds on the coast would be better if it was like Pat Morley between the fields, then wouldn't be a problem.
The point is that it was considered good enough for otherteams to play there but not 16A's ?, so is the referee's association ruling only to allocate games there that aren't 16A's at Maidenbrush or is the field now closed to "Football".
I honestly would think if it's not "safe" for 16 A's it's not safe for 16 C's or in fact any "Football" side.
Then again most players just want to get out there and play. !!

Gavenlock was NOT closed yesterday.

[nutmeg]

Gosford WAA4s won 1-0 at gavenlock

[oziboy]

Yeah sorry Gevenlock was open !!.
Does anyone know if the 16 "A" girls played at Maidensbrush they were scheduled to play their today. ?

[omni]

If a player had got injured because of this cricket pitch I bet we'd never hear the end of it and that referee would probably be in a fair bit of trouble, the decision has been made and I'm sure things will be sorted out, you can't change the decision now so move on, this isn't the world cup.