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Post by DJ on Sept 5, 2005 18:11:42 GMT 10
john just replied saying that the security is evenly spread around the pitch (explain fatman scoop!) and that the police go to bay 16 because it is the best view of the whole ground. also that 6-9 police are at each game, who has seen at least 6 at the top of bay 16 at one time? far out... apparently a marinator went in today and demanded his season ticket money back. look people, we can either go to the police contact that john can provide us with, and i'm happy to put our case together and spend the time doing it if people feel that strongly about it, or we can just hack the situation, be censored, lose members, be quieter and move on with no swearing. adhering to unfair threats is against everything i believe in, but i am just one yellow. what do others think. I am happy to go with the flow - most people can tell I think the issue is a joke and we should be able to say what we want. However I think the police will continue to threaten to kick us out every game even if we talk to them. |
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Post by Grunta on Sept 5, 2005 18:27:22 GMT 10
On the bright side, the
"we love you f-word"
chant was a classic
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Post by yellowcake on Sept 5, 2005 23:14:18 GMT 10
>....there are 3 >things i want to do as a marinator, which are 1) lift the team 2) have a >good time myself and 3) create the atmosphere for the stadium. Given that these things (and therefore the Marinators) are of significant importance to the whole venture, any course that prevents anyone from: 1. being kicked out, individually or en masse; or 2. dropping out as a vote against censorship is currently essential (but might be relaxable when the focus is off a bit) I'd suggest that probably means "puck" and "friggin", while trying to ignore how ridiculous it is. I would add this: "puck" and "friggin" will sound exactly the same as the original to the rest of the stadium (and therefore be just as funny). It's never been like "F**KING C*NT" would be at the snooker - like never bothered any of my kids at all - I dont know if they've even worked it out. I did think you were subdued yesterday (not knowing any of the above stuff). I could'nt work it out - sure the numbers were down but you still had more than the Cove on each of their visits and their one row had been pretty loud. |
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Post by Ursus on Sept 6, 2005 9:35:11 GMT 10
Having been there both times we have been pulled up for swearing it has been for "I can't hear a f***ing thing".
This is a chant that everyone knows and all join in I think the f word then is very distinct in this chant.
If we replace it with pucking I believe all will still hear it as f***ing and the problem will not be resolved.
I think our other chants can be more offensive ie "Reddy takes it up the a***" etc but are not as clear.
My solution: Don't worry about all the other songs. There are no problems.
For the abovementioned pair we sing "I can't hear a BLEEEEEP thing" or "Reddy takes it up the BLEEEEEP".
If the bleep is really loud and distinct everyone will break up and a difficult situation can be solved with a laugh.
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Post by DJ on Sept 6, 2005 10:04:41 GMT 10
Coppers take it up the arse doo dah doo dah.........
Seriously thou, its only f*** that they seem to be idiots over. When we were singing Reddy is a wanker they didn't care, when we said shit they didn't care, it will happen every game.
I feel that if we continue to get the shits over it the club will start to think that we can only get behind the team if we swear, which of course is not the case.
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Post by Adz on Sept 6, 2005 10:14:15 GMT 10
My solution: Don't worry about all the other songs. There are no problems. For the abovementioned pair we sing "I can't hear a BLEEEEEP thing" or "Reddy takes it up the BLEEEEEP". If the bleep is really loud and distinct everyone will break up and a difficult situation can be solved with a laugh. I like this idea, it's taking the piss out of the other fans and the cops at the same time ;D Personally I don't know why we are creating such a fuss with the club about this - it really does make us look like we can't go to a football game unless we are allowed to all yell out f*** at the top of our lungs. When this point was raised earlier in the year I was firmly against censorship of chants - but now Marinators have been in the papers, the crowd is starting to follow our lead more, Marinators are like football fan role models (excuse me while I have a spew, that's a bit corny). Also, what I didn't realise then was how clearly we can be heard around the ground! As far as I can tell they only have an issue with the word f***, and I can count on one finger the number of songs we are singing with the word f*** in it. I think that song is overused anyway - we can all see the away teams don't bring many people, and we can't hear them, no need to let them know every five minutes  What happened to the "Yellllllooooowwwwwww, Yellllllooooowwwwwww...." chant from the WCC? I'd rather that if anything. There's my 2c . |
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Post by Rowdy on Sept 6, 2005 11:51:26 GMT 10
Reddy ( or whoever) takes it up the "arse", could be replaced with "ring".
Works well for Henry "Frodo" Fa'Arodo, from PerthGlory
There's one fixed, preciousssssssssssssssss.
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Post by MsCanada on Sept 6, 2005 12:48:57 GMT 10
Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain
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Post by Dan on Sept 6, 2005 18:37:10 GMT 10
Never a truer phrase said.
And i thought he was purely a scholar in paddleboats.
The Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep thing would get past it's used by date pretty soon, but we can give it a go. If it worked for roadrunner it can work for us.
This whole debate is stupido really. I love the tribal element of being on the terraces, singing and chanting. Thats what half the sport is about. We dont need to swear to have a good time, but the thought of having Big Brother/Copper looking down on me with a frown is just going to grate.
It dilutes the experience.
Next there will be a 'swear' box being passed around.
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Post by brett on Sept 6, 2005 18:55:08 GMT 10
RV, you're exactly right. The whole is stupid. The fact that they actually care so hard about it is so ridiculous that I dont know what to think. The whole idea of police threats and the lack of support from the club over something so trivial makes my blood boil. We've lost at least one of our numbers and we were certainly muted on Sunday which makes us and the team the real losers.
After really thinking and talking it over with various people I say we just cut that song out of our arsenal (rather than replace the word, which a lot of people dont do as they dont read the forums and then they just stop singing) and see how it goes. If we continue to cop any flak of any kind then we do what we have to do.
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Post by offtheball on Sept 6, 2005 20:06:36 GMT 10
Why don't you guys get over it and use some intellect to gain the same effect.
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Post by Dan on Sept 6, 2005 20:22:27 GMT 10
What? Like a Mensa quiz at halftime?
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Post by kevrenor on Sept 6, 2005 20:26:01 GMT 10
Why don't you guys get over it and use some intellect to gain the same effect. Like substituting this week - a sheepish Baaah! every time instead! lol I'm not a huge swearer so using the songs on the public songbook would be what I would suggest, but I agree that it is the unwelcome and unwarranted police attention that grates! |
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Post by geordieglory on Sept 6, 2005 22:58:15 GMT 10
I feel sorry for you guys.
You are well aware we were targeted in the Pre-Season Cup Final it was a combination of over zealous security and some idiot people behind us.
And being there on Sunday, it was something that is un-heard of.
We are with you all the way.
If the police talk to you lot again, sing Old MacDonald Had a Farm with Pig and Oik. We do it all the time at The Shed (or used to).
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Post by omni on Sept 7, 2005 9:17:38 GMT 10
This issue is incredibly trivial (as I guarentee you I did alot of swearing on Sunday with that officiating display) and Bay 16 is unfairly targeted - at the very least if we agree to stop f*** the police MUST go (except for one or two) as it's giving us an udeserved reputation. It is an unfair form of censorship and it's not on, I don't think CCMFC would be happy with the threat of loosing fans nor the FFA - take this as far as you want.
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Post by striker9 on Sept 7, 2005 9:27:36 GMT 10
Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain Ummmmmm....very clever Ms Canada Mark Twain also said " When angry count four; when very angry, swear...." ... but, I prefer Shania Twain any time...hehehehehe |
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Post by MsCanada on Sept 7, 2005 12:04:24 GMT 10
his other phrase of choice is: When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries of life disappear and life stands explained. --Mark Twain was he referering to the Marinators?  ? ha ha |
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Post by striker9 on Sept 7, 2005 12:31:20 GMT 10
his other phrase of choice is: When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries of life disappear and life stands explained. --Mark Twain was he referering to the Marinators? ? ha ha ..in one way or another, Marinators, like all men are mad. Many are mad for football, love of women etc. One of the commonest forms of madness is the desire to be noticed, the pleasure derived from being noticed. Does this explain the marinators' behaviour...hahahahahahahaha |
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Sept 7, 2005 16:04:02 GMT 10
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Post by football365 on Sept 7, 2005 17:42:34 GMT 10
Instead of "I can't hear a f***ing thing", perhaps "I can't hear a bloody thing". Sounds better than bleep or puck. Just a thought. Kinda sucks they are being so tight on you guys.
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What happened to the "Yellllllooooowwwwwww, Yellllllooooowwwwwww...." chant from the WCC? I'd rather that if anything.
? ha ha
