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Post by manlyjack on Nov 28, 2005 11:54:16 GMT 10
What is the go with Central Coast people they have tried NRL they have tried Union (Gordon) but it seems the best we attract is a hard core supporters group of about 5000 . I really dont want to be negative but I dont think the CC Mariners can do much more to crowds to the game , we are competative playing in a quality league at a fantastic venue. Is it the price of the tickets I really dont know but I hope in some way it improves.
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Post by omni on Nov 28, 2005 11:59:20 GMT 10
I don't think it's ticket price - it's pretty cheap for a GA ticket.
It annoys me that we get 10k on an average night but can't get more than 5 for a perfect Sunday afternoon (V Adelaide). I don't know what they can do, is it because people don't know when games are or who the mariners, obviously there needs to be more marketing but how? We managed to get 8k to pre-season games, where did these people go?
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Post by pipray on Nov 28, 2005 12:13:42 GMT 10
I think it's a matter of convivcing people it's a really enjoyable evening/afternoon. My sister has been going to get to a game all season, i finally got her to Friday nights game and she loved it! Wishes she had come sooner and it wasn't even our best game. I also had to convince a local league soccer player to go and he says he will go again. More marketing would make a difference and the price of the tickets is a problem. Friends of ours are keen to go but are reluctant to spend the money, which does add up when you have a family of 5.
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Post by brett on Nov 28, 2005 12:32:19 GMT 10
In my opinion it's not about raising the profile of the Mariners on the Coast it's about raising the profile of the A-League around the country. It needs some form of quality FTA coverage and constant catchy yet informative advertising on FTA to familiarise people with the A-League, the teams, the players.
It is heading in the right direction I suppose with the World Cup etc so it might just be a matter of waiting and surviving.
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Post by marinerbhoy on Nov 28, 2005 12:39:13 GMT 10
winning at home is also another thing. the teams performance at home is utter crap. what we witnessed for 80mins on fri night is testiment to that. if our away form was switched with our home form then crowds would be bigger. as striker said in another thread, the play is quite boring at times.
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Post by manlyjack on Nov 28, 2005 14:19:52 GMT 10
I know my son goes to games with his mates regularly and they have a ball in Bay 16. I sit with the wife in the stands and friends and family have told me $25.00 is to much to pay to see every home game so you really cannot beat that mentallity its a money thing. Maybe if every kid registered with soccer on the central coast for that year received a free pass that might help but I agree the Mariners need to be in peoples faces 24/7 during the season.
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Post by Nah. on Nov 28, 2005 15:05:20 GMT 10
we pay for a family ticket in bay 25 or 29 usually, which gets me my brother mum and her friend. I still cometo the games nomatter what, we were at one the day before a really long drive to some weddign in some park near taronga zoo. The mariners dont have to be in peoples faces 24/7 its just the majority of central coast people are lazy.
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Post by manlyjack on Nov 28, 2005 15:17:14 GMT 10
Big call but yea I would agree with that statement sometimes.
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Post by Nah. on Nov 28, 2005 15:23:01 GMT 10
wich statement?
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Post by samwise on Nov 28, 2005 16:06:35 GMT 10
Your right it is a bit weird. I sent in a letter to the advocate about this.Coming from England and being a Plymouth Argyle supporter the marinators remind me of home.The singing and stuff comes from a pride of where you come from.That the place you live is better than anywhere else. Yeah, you go to see the footie, but your making sure that your place comes out on top through the singing or the quality of the footie. Crowds over 15000 will happen when the people round here get united behind something,anything!
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Post by offtheball on Nov 28, 2005 16:34:55 GMT 10
Free kids passes for CCSA registered players is a must. Gets the parents along.
Cost of food and beverages is a turn off. Although it doesn't seem to stop people going to the movies.
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Post by voice of reason on Nov 28, 2005 17:28:53 GMT 10
it's sheer apathy that keeps people away...if we don't support them the Mariners will up and off to N Sydney or somewhere, or the FFA will take them from us...I'm very impatient of people's excuses for not going to the home games...we should be looking for reasons to go instead...as a pom who grew up with the game I saw that loyalty was more than following a winning team...it was supporting them through thick and thin. My sentiments are with you, manlyjack (ps. is that because you have big biceps or because you come from Manly?)
I see many faces at Central Coast soccer during the season but I've seen few of them at the games...they are the first line of support. If we can't get them, we won't get League or Union converts...
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Post by grimsbymariner on Nov 28, 2005 19:33:40 GMT 10
I sit with the wife in the stands and friends and family have told me $25.00 is to much to pay to see every home game. $25.00- that's about £10 right? I have to pay £17 to see Grimsby play and we are in the fourth division! I can't believe you could get your team moved somewhere else- just like the franchises in basketball and American Football in the States. People never know a good thing until it's gone. |
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Post by blingbling on Nov 28, 2005 20:19:44 GMT 10
To watch the Spirit play cost $15 for the cheap seats.To watch Nrl costs $18-20 for the cheapest.
One thing I like what Manly have always done is let people in for free at half time.Spirit never did that.I got to a game late one night and with 15 mins to go they still asked for full price!?! I don't know if it's the same with the mariners or not.
They could make a rule if the last home game they lost if you keep that ticket and go back the next home game you can get the new ticket for half price.
Also my favourite idea (you heard it here first). If you rock up to the game in the teams (star track) jersey you can buy your ticket for half price.You see the club has made it's money with the sale of the jersey anyway.And each year they change the jersey so if you wan't a half price ticket you have to buy a new one.
Now as for local pride besides 99% of the people on this forum I just don't see it.Working in retail which I do I get to meet lot's of coasties.I ask them if they go to the game or are interested.Most are not.
I guess you lot would learn alot about why things are like they are if you look into the Nth Spirit history.If the club and the fans can learn from there mistakes the Mariners might have a chance.
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Post by blingbling on Nov 28, 2005 20:26:19 GMT 10
Another thing about the jersey idea is the club would sell thousands more if you got in for half price by wearing it to the game.Not only that you would have most people in the game with the team jersey on.Not only that if you had thousands of people with them you up the chance for free advertising by them wearing them around in public.Not only that the club could sell the advertising on the jersey for more money because they can show the intrested business how many they have sold and they might like 10000 people walking around advertising there product/business.
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Post by blingbling on Nov 28, 2005 20:27:46 GMT 10
There you go.Those last 2 posts are gold people!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by shelleybeach on Nov 29, 2005 3:46:45 GMT 10
it's all about profile, which primarily comes down to cash - stars are needed if the A-league is to go to that next level.
Also with the coast having what 315,000 people, spread over 80km in dispersed suburbs with rubbbish public transport (it's not like 1000s can walk to the game), a huge number of them are over 65s, lots of people are on lower incomes, and there are numerous other sports/ hobbies that are popular, I think pulling in 15,000 for home games would be a fair effort, it will take time to build larger base than the core of existing football fans especially as the finances are so tight - the Gold Coast coudn't sustain a rugby league team when there population was about 350,000, i put some of that down to there being lots of retirees, lots of people on low incomes and it was hard to get to games (no public transport), registered juniors should be heavily sussidised at the gate and games should start at 6:30 at the earliest
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Post by Rowdy on Nov 29, 2005 10:54:06 GMT 10
There you go.Those last 2 posts are gold people!!!!!!!!!!!! the ego is a noble servant but an ignoble master. |
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Post by Pete on Nov 29, 2005 11:24:57 GMT 10
I tend to think that the FTA situation doesn't help. No games broadcast on FTA means that those without Foxtel only hear the scorelines or maybe a match highlight in the news. I know SBS does give a segment to A-League in their World Game, but what is needed is a reach out to those not already invovled in football. The World Game has it's audience and I bet most of those have been to an A-League game this season. Those that haven't, have decided not to, rather than not being aware of the A-League at all.
I have noticed that Newcastle Jets have been advertising their upcoming home game on FTA TV this past week or so. Why? Because they haven't been at home for a while as their stadium has been renovated. They may have guessed that they could have been forgotten and have taken the initiative to remind folks they are there. Maybe the Mariners should advertise the NYE game now, on FTA TV via an ad. It would piggyback well onto the Jets campaign, and as the same regional services reach both teams towns, you could attract many more potential spectators for the one price.
What the A-League needs is exposure, reminding folks all the time that the season is on, football is being played.
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Post by Rowdy on Nov 29, 2005 12:09:36 GMT 10
Too righty there Pete.
Mariners should definitely be piggy-backing the Jest advertising on NBN after their game this week and continuing it for the following 4 weeks. Who knows we might just smash our record for the attendance on the nite
It'll let the Novo's know that the NYE game is a great pre-cursor to celebrate the evening. The Mariners should consult with the Jets in offering a bus and ticket deal for the nite with return travel for after game or a one-way ticket for those that want to stay and celebrate NYE at the CCLC or else where (they can train it home).
Better still put on an early fire-works for the kiddies, barge out on the water. Maybe a "Biggi'n" to get the game underway instead of the whistle.
Top it off with a decent musical act/performer (no f***ing Idol Shiite!) at the end of the game doing about 6-8 songs.
The stadium would be selling quite a bit of grog, more than the normal. Set off a few more glitteries after that, try and tie in with whatever the dip shits from the council are organising (share costs/joint promotion etc), if anything?
If it works out half way decent, then the Mariners should negotiate straight away with the FFA for the same date/venue in next years league, maybe even against the Bling instead? would bring in more of the " younger party set football fans" who would stay and party at Troppo or Iggys/Terrigal. Heaps come up here on the nite anyway with-out an A-League excuse.
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