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Post by marinerbhoy on Jan 25, 2007 22:45:24 GMT 10
dont know how sully wont be resigned. doesnt make sense to me, esp with 23 man roster. he can play in two areas of the park, and do it well. what pisses me off even more is that there are players who have played shit this season and are being kept on 'potential'(sorry tiges), while sully played well and gets cut
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Post by brett on Jan 25, 2007 22:54:12 GMT 10
don't apologise, just like lawrie i have my favourites and i can see guys like ossie and hutch doing super well next term due to their 'potential'. i would put my apostrophes around sully playing 'well'. you could always see lawrie's frustration when he put it out for yet another throw or passed to the opposition or crossed it into brisbane water. his 1 minute worth of stunning last ditch tackles usually made up for 89 minutes of being dominated physically and giving the ball away. and unlike some of the others I've never seen sull play better than that.  |
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Post by omni on Jan 26, 2007 19:23:31 GMT 10
The person who told me this would certainly know what they were talking about, DJ. I realise I post shit, but I wouldn't put up just speculation as if it was fact.
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Post by juicyfruit on Jan 26, 2007 20:07:19 GMT 10
you are f***ing joking wayne osullivan saved our arse so many times this year he would be close tom my man of the year what game is lawrie playing get rid of excess such as mrjde and leave sully as a valued member of our squad I have never questionedlawrie and his decisions but ffs releasing sully is just crap ps im pissed but sully is valued
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Post by DJ on Jan 26, 2007 21:07:58 GMT 10
The person who told me this would certainly know what they were talking about, DJ. I realise I post shit, but I wouldn't put up just speculation as if it was fact. omni - I'm taking the piss take a chill pill ;D |
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Post by mustapha_beer on Jan 28, 2007 8:25:47 GMT 10
Here's my thoughts on the 3. I put this on the wrong thread, originally, and before Omni's inside scoop on Sully. Still disagree with letting him go and still think Vuko got a raw deal, especially considering how many chances Kwasnik has had......anyway....
(1) Spencer - in a way, sorry to see him go. I don't think he played well at all this season, and I said so on more than one occasion. He did captain us to the grand final last season, though, and scored a number of important goals - the late winner against Sydney will always be one of my favourites! Also, he captained Spirit for a while, and along with McKinna and co was one of the reasons I chose Mariners over Bling.
(2) Sully - I agree with the 'why oh why' question. The guy may not be a spring chicken, but I always felt he offered a lot to the team - defending and going forward. Maybe McKinna has a replacement in mind, but that one DOES suprise me.
(3) Vuko - another of the ex-Spirit group gone. I know he had a lot of detractors on this forum, but I don't honestly feel he had a long enough run to prove his worth. People say he was frequently being caught out of position, but this tended to be because he was busting a gut trying to get forward and support the attack. Also, unlike 90% of the team, he can actually cross a ball and was always a threat at set pieces.
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Post by barnes on Jan 28, 2007 12:57:54 GMT 10
I'll start by saying that Sully was one of, if not my favourtie, mariners player.
I ran into Lawrie the other day and asked why we weren't keeping him, he said:
1. age & fitness (only played 11 games this year I think he said)
2. Money - he was earning a fair amount of money I think, one of our top earners. Not sure why we couldn't have offered him a new gig at $35k a year, but I assume he wouldn't want a massive pay cut.
3. Can't pass a ball - Lawrie said he put 8 crosses/passes into the stands against Qld Roar.
Considering the facts, even as a big Sully fan, couldn't not agree with us axing him.
Also, if you look at who we will have next year that can play RB (the only position I believe Sully excelled in this year), we will have Porter, Osman, Clark and potentially Wilko (if we were to play Vidmar & O'Grady in the centre and Brown left).
So plenty of cover.
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Post by wombat on Jan 29, 2007 18:03:30 GMT 10
My thoughts:
Spencer...definately time to go. He was terrible this year and abit of an embarrasment as capt.
Vuko...no where near the standard required. A ball watcher.
Sully.....I would have kept him as cover but he wasn't top class.
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Post by DJ on Jan 30, 2007 8:47:02 GMT 10
It's interesting to read other forums at this time of year and seeing who is linked to who. The Roar forum is claiming to have a very strong link to Noel Spencer, some think he will be a good signing and some don't. They also say that Dario Vidosic is linked with a move to Germany even thou he has 1 year left on his current deal.
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Post by marinermick on Jan 30, 2007 8:58:10 GMT 10
If he thought the commute to Gosford was far imagine Brisbane!
IMO, any decent offer from sydney and he will be there in a fit.
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Jan 30, 2007 9:32:00 GMT 10
If he thought the commute to Gosford was far imagine Brisbane! IMO, any decent offer from sydney and he will be there in a fit. in whose place? not mcflynn, not milligan... third choice CDM? not likely. |
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Post by marinermick on Jan 30, 2007 10:14:08 GMT 10
If he thought the commute to Gosford was far imagine Brisbane! IMO, any decent offer from sydney and he will be there in a fit. in whose place? not mcflynn, not milligan... third choice CDM? not likely. well if sydney are looking at adam casey and jonty richter, noel doesn't seem that bad a choice |
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Post by kevrenor on Jan 30, 2007 10:54:17 GMT 10
in whose place? not mcflynn, not milligan... third choice CDM? not likely. well if sydney are looking at adam casey and jonty richter, noel doesn't seem that bad a choice Adam Casey is a good young prospect as U20 striker. I rate him. |
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Jan 31, 2007 8:42:21 GMT 10
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Post by jazasydneyfc on Jan 31, 2007 8:43:30 GMT 10
FFS DJ you promised!!!  |
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Post by marinermick on Jan 31, 2007 8:57:25 GMT 10
Isn't it a little bizarre that you can sign players for finals series from a-league clubs that don't make the finals? A team could just pilfer the best players from the clubs that are out and unfairly win the title. Though it may well be the opposite for Sydney. Can't see Spencer doing the job on Carle like McFlynn did. |
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Jan 31, 2007 9:09:52 GMT 10
FFS DJ you promised!!! Blame TB… |
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Post by johnnywarren on Jan 31, 2007 15:06:37 GMT 10
heard that on the radio this morning. but all hearsay at present
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Post by LeedsMariner#4 on Jan 31, 2007 15:43:18 GMT 10
Isn't it a little bizarre that you can sign players for finals series from a-league clubs that don't make the finals? A team could just pilfer the best players from the clubs that are out and unfairly win the title. Though it may well be the opposite for Sydney. Can't see Spencer doing the job on Carle like McFlynn did. i agree, if it happens it is a joke!!! |
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Post by DJ on Jan 31, 2007 15:58:08 GMT 10
FFS DJ you promised!!! Spencer is still contracted to the Mariners, unless Sydney wanna do something about that first he won't be wearing a blue Sydney shirt! |
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