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Post by ~Floss~ on Oct 8, 2007 13:42:41 GMT 10
On the face of things they are following their laws yes, but at the crux of it they are letting what should be seen as a serious offence, go unpunished. Strike an official youre gone... simple as! If it had been decided by the yellow, it should have been overuled as many have said previously, by the "bringing the game into disprepute" rule. Now the FFA are taking backward steps which will only bring the Aleague into disrepute.. Gutless by the FFA, anyone would think it was one of Frank Lowy's players that had struck an official. Letting it go hey? SO obviously wrong, it smacks of corruption and agendas IMO! Tony Vidmar out for two weeks for one dodgey yellow and one fair yellow, but if you strike a linesman your sweet??? PLEASE EXPLAIN>>> WTF??? The Vidmar comparison is what rubs salt into the wound. If I read correctly, it will only take another case of "one dodgey yellow and one fair yellow" and he's out for 6wks. Yet dangers to society like Musialik and Griffiths are still walking our streets. |
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Post by newieutd on Oct 8, 2007 13:48:25 GMT 10
A bizarre decision from what I thought was one of the better refereeing performances. You have to be kidding. Numerous bad decisions. 11 fouls - 1 yellow card 16 fouls - 6 yellow cards. Simple maths take 10 away from the fouls and you get yellow cards. |
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Post by bikinigirl on Oct 8, 2007 13:56:45 GMT 10
. haven't seen a video yet, but live at the ground i thought he was given a yellow for having a go at the AR (verbal)
. i still think that this how the incident has been addressed
. if physical contact was made (or even a threat) I cannot believe that anybody would consider a yellow sufficient, so believe that particular act has not been addressed at all
. even if the guy (AR) is carrying around titanium rocks, they aren't in a punching bag. true, he may not have made much of it at the time but from what everybody is saying the AR won't want to see the video and probably won't feel to good about the way his employer is taking no action .... call in workcover!
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Post by bikinigirl on Oct 8, 2007 13:59:27 GMT 10
A bizarre decision from what I thought was one of the better refereeing performances. You have to be kidding. Numerous bad decisions. 11 fouls - 1 yellow card 16 fouls - 6 yellow cards. Simple maths take 10 away from the fouls and you get yellow cards. . and what does simple maths have to do with refereeing decisions? |
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Post by bobandbill on Oct 8, 2007 14:01:27 GMT 10
A bizarre decision from what I thought was one of the better refereeing performances. You have to be kidding. Numerous bad decisions. 11 fouls - 1 yellow card 16 fouls - 6 yellow cards. Simple maths take 10 away from the fouls and you get yellow cards. But generally the tackles Newcastle made were worse - e.g. the tackle on clark in the second half - cut him down and didn't get the ball - and the tackle on Simon when he didn't even have the ball. And 2 of the yellow cards were for the Griffiths incident, and the one just before fulltime for the player who I think came on the field in the wrong time or way or something, wasn't paying attention. |
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Post by newieutd on Oct 8, 2007 14:04:02 GMT 10
You have to be kidding. Numerous bad decisions. 11 fouls - 1 yellow card 16 fouls - 6 yellow cards. Simple maths take 10 away from the fouls and you get yellow cards. But generally the tackles Newcastle made were worse - e.g. the tackle on clark in the second half - cut him down and didn't get the ball - and the tackle on Simon when he didn't even have the ball. And 2 of the yellow cards were for the Griffiths incident, and the one just before fulltime for the player who I think came on the field in the wrong time or way or something, wasn't paying attention. The Kohler incident was to stop Simon, Simon should have got a yellow card, The referee wasnt taking any action against CC players so Kohler thought he would himself |
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Post by uncleyellow on Oct 8, 2007 14:04:22 GMT 10
it means SOME Jets fans can count!!
at lest up to ten!
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Post by newieutd on Oct 8, 2007 14:04:23 GMT 10
You have to be kidding. Numerous bad decisions. 11 fouls - 1 yellow card 16 fouls - 6 yellow cards. Simple maths take 10 away from the fouls and you get yellow cards. . and what does simple maths have to do with refereeing decisions? I was being sarcastic |
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Post by T on Oct 8, 2007 14:09:20 GMT 10
Overall, I'd have to say Breeze was being pretty lenient to both sides.... There were a few tackles that should have been pulled up and weren't. I've also seen games where the opposition have been able to tackle our players from behind, punch our keeper and all sorts of malarky and get away with it whilst all we had to do is almost touch a player to be given a penalty or card. The majority of the yellow cards were deserved.
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Post by curious on Oct 8, 2007 14:54:45 GMT 10
The FFA want to bury the belt in the nuts incident as they did the monkey saga. They don't want bad press reflecting on the game so they will just have to put up with being seen as total fools.
I disagree strongly that they are acting according to their own rules with their hands tied. They have available to them "extraordinary circumstances" if they wish to act.
But they don't.
So if the media gives us shite & ridicule for being the first pro sport to allow a player to assault an official in clear view of television cameras & now national FTA news, without serious recrimination, we deserve all we get.
Even more so if we stay silent & allow the FFA to belittle our sport the way they seem so willing to do.
I don't 'think' the old soccer attitude still exists. It's damn obvious it does & in big doses.
They are certainly tryng their best to stuff up Australian national football again & that gets me riled. The bastards have learned nothing from history. Nothing.
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Post by Bearinator on Oct 8, 2007 14:58:06 GMT 10
Prevent hair loss = 12 month ban Punch an official = sweet f*** all Whats next... Tell ref he has beautiful eyes = life ban Stab a ref in the chest = player of the year  |
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Post by T on Oct 8, 2007 14:58:56 GMT 10
Prevent hair loss = 12 month ban Punch an official = sweet f*** all Whats next... Stab a ref in the chest = player of the year I guess it depends on who the ref is  |
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Post by curious on Oct 8, 2007 15:04:54 GMT 10
Well.......some of the younger (read immature) fans want Australian football support to follow european & s. american leagues.
If the league lasts long enough they may get what they want.
Warts, corruption & violence included..
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Post by brett on Oct 8, 2007 15:05:37 GMT 10
A bizarre decision from what I thought was one of the better refereeing performances. You have to be kidding. Numerous bad decisions. 11 fouls - 1 yellow card 16 fouls - 6 yellow cards. Simple maths take 10 away from the fouls and you get yellow cards. This is ridiculous...either point out instances where the ref was wrong in either punishing you, or not punishing us, or accept that your team is a pack of cheats  |
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Post by Pete on Oct 8, 2007 15:13:41 GMT 10
The FFA want to bury the belt in the nuts incident as they did the monkey saga. They don't want bad press reflecting on the game so they will just have to put up with being seen as total fools. I disagree strongly that they are acting according to their own rules with their hands tied. They have available to them "extraordinary circumstances" if they wish to act. But they don't. So if the media gives us shite & ridicule for being the first pro sport to allow a player to assault an official in clear view of television cameras & now national FTA news, without serious recrimination, we deserve all we get. Even more so if we stay silent & allow the FFA to belittle our sport the way they seem so willing to do. I don't 'think' the old soccer attitude still exists. It's damn obvious it does & in big doses. They are certainly tryng their best to stuff up Australian national football again & that gets me riled. The bastards have learned nothing from history. Nothing. So.......do we start emailing the FFA? As Mariners fans it would seem a case of sour grapes given we had a draw. Why the ref only gave a yellow instead of a red with a police escort for Griffiths, is beyond me. If the Laws say that the matter can't be overturned because the matter was attended to, on the field, then perhaps they better make sure that the yellow was actually for the assault and not just for his dissenting behaviour that occurred just prior. I tend to view his hissy fit and then the limp wristed punch to the nuts as two separate offences. If the Assistant Ref let it go and just reported the dissent to the Ref, then he should never be an official in a senior game again. |
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Post by uncleyellow on Oct 8, 2007 15:21:43 GMT 10
That couldnt be seen as sour grapes....its just so blatant, there is no grey area to go with IMO!
Sore grapes maybe!! but not sour....
FFA should be made aware that they may have swept it under the carpet, but we can still see the pile of shite underneath..
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Post by curious on Oct 8, 2007 15:24:24 GMT 10
We don't know what was said by the ass. ref to the ref & I'm sure we will never know the way the FFA acts in secrecy. In the heat & rush of the moment the ref may have misinterpreted what was reported, the report might not have been clear, or any number of things.
To be sure, if the nut smack was reported & the ref only gave a yellow, he needs instant sacking. But I doubt that was not the case seeing that refs are very much aware of how serious the striking of a ref is considered. Even touching a ref can get you a red card.
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Post by bakery5 on Oct 8, 2007 15:24:50 GMT 10
Prevent hair loss = 12 month ban Punch an official = sweet f*** all Whats next... Tell ref he has beautiful eyes = life ban Stab a ref in the chest = player of the year But the chick referee in the a-league has beautiful eyes ;D |
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Post by bakery5 on Oct 8, 2007 15:26:36 GMT 10
We don't know what was said by the ass. ref to the ref & I'm sure we will never know the way the FFA acts in secrecy. In the heat & rush of the moment the ref may have misinterpreted what was reported, the report might not have been clear, or any number of things. To be sure, if the nut smack was reported & the ref only gave a yellow, he needs instant sacking. But I doubt that was not the case seeing that refs are very much aware of how serious the striking of a ref is considered. Even touching a ref can get you a red card. Joel hit me in the balls. Sounds simple to me  |
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Post by newieutd on Oct 8, 2007 15:30:55 GMT 10
You have to be kidding. Numerous bad decisions. 11 fouls - 1 yellow card 16 fouls - 6 yellow cards. Simple maths take 10 away from the fouls and you get yellow cards. This is ridiculous...either point out instances where the ref was wrong in either punishing you, or not punishing us, or accept that your team is a pack of cheats Vukovic free kick. The way Simon ran into Covic, well after the play. Any time D'Apuzzo was on the ball he was hacked. The fact D'Apuzzo should have got a red for his blatant swing after a player got away. No matter how many times he gets hacked he shouldnt react like that |
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