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Post by curious on Oct 9, 2007 15:02:51 GMT 10
I believe there should be a "No Tolerence Policy" for violence against Match officials. no matter what action was taken on the field, or how girly the punch was. But they do.....officially it has very, very severe consequences & regarded as the worst offence in football. Unofficially they pay lip service to their pretence of improved professionalism. The Crawford report was a waste of taxpayers money.
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Post by Pete on Oct 9, 2007 16:21:23 GMT 10
Um, could someone please tell me an email address for the FFA so I can let them know what I think about the Griffiths' assault on the assistant ref? I mean an email addy that isn't some automated response and nobody of importance getting to read it. No use firing off at an email addy they've put up that will just load up their server and nothing more.
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mrkaant
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Post by mrkaant on Oct 9, 2007 16:25:39 GMT 10
Omni mate, you keep going on with all this shite about "if I were the linesman" you would do this and that, and you keep telling us you are OUTRAGED by what Joel did,
Quite simply..YOUR NOT HIM, so please enough is enough.
don't you think if what joel did was serious eough to warrent the a/r would have told matty that he should be sent off? None of this "maybe he didnt hear him properly". the a/r thought a yellow was sufficant so leave it at that.
what do people on this forum have agisnt Joel anyways, he is in the top 5 players in this league, I also happen to know he is an upstanding member of the newcastle region, usually helping out with childrens fundrasiers, coaching clincis wtc.
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Post by Pete on Oct 9, 2007 16:37:30 GMT 10
Mr. Kaant read the Thread topic. That's what we think he is.
HE appears to have gotten out of a very serious charge through some onfield incompetence.
Very lucky this time.
His general behaviour onfield is woeful - and it's not just this incident - he has always been one to dive, always the one to be spiteful, always the one to have his bloody say to the ref, and his yellow card record speaks volumes about this onfield volatility. This behaviour should have been sorted out by the time he was 10 ffs!
If he is a fine ambassador to the game off field, he ruins it every time he gets involved in controversy onfield. And if you happen know people who know him, get the message to him that a) the luck he got this game won't last forever and b) he can be a goodwill ambassador for the game as much as he likes off the field, but his talent and these deeds do not give him licence to be a c**t onfield. He should just play the game straight and not get hooked up in getting one back on another player or being the a**hole.
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mrkaant
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Post by mrkaant on Oct 9, 2007 16:44:50 GMT 10
you mean showing pride in your jersey, giving your all all the time, never say die attitude is a bad thing. (for eg/ agaisnt melbourne when he flicked the ball in, ran around the back of the sponser board thing and still managed to get to the ball before vargas,) He is entitled to have his say to the ref, it's not as if every other player in the league doesn't do it, and alot of the time he has a point (eg/ when vukovic tripped him) or lets have a think back to last eyars derby at your ground when he WAS tripped by a mariner, denied an obvious penalty and got his 2nd yellow, gee thats worth a yellow aye.
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Post by T on Oct 9, 2007 16:49:41 GMT 10
The guy has a fairly well earned rep for being a diving champ... yeah, he may have been accidentally tripped by Danny, but take a close look at the replay, it was a legal tackle and as soon as Danny hit the ground Joel decided he was going down to, then he rolled around on the ground like a little girl. I have seen him hit by a shadow and watched him fall. The guy brings the game down, its players like him who are giving the sport a bad name, and getting it labelled a sport for pansy's. Stop being so one eyed and look at the facts. Support you team, yes. Stand up for them, yes, but FFS admit when they made a mistake.
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Post by bobandbill on Oct 9, 2007 16:52:46 GMT 10
you mean showing pride in your jersey, giving your all all the time, never say die attitude is a bad thing. (for eg/ agaisnt melbourne when he flicked the ball in, ran around the back of the sponser board thing and still managed to get to the ball before vargas,) I don't think we mean that. A 'never say die' attitide in terms of always chasing after the ball, trying to make plays, making runs, is different to making contact with the ref, or constantly diving. And don't say he doesn't dive. So that means he's allowed to hit a ref because he didn't get a foul?
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mrkaant
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Post by mrkaant on Oct 9, 2007 17:02:01 GMT 10
T, that was NOT a legal challange!
I'm not saying he doesnt dive, most players these days dive in one way or another.
Im not saying hitting a referee is acceptable, but obviously he didn't actually hit him at all (or perhaps only made minimal contact with shorts) because if he made any sort of substantial contact the a/r WOULD HAVE told matty to send him off.
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Post by curious on Oct 9, 2007 17:05:07 GMT 10
Omni mate, you keep going on with all this shite about "if I were the linesman" you would do this and that, and you keep telling us you are OUTRAGED by what Joel did, Quite simply..YOUR NOT HIM, so please enough is enough. don't you think if what joel did was serious eough to warrent the a/r would have told matty that he should be sent off? None of this "maybe he didnt hear him properly". the a/r thought a yellow was sufficant so leave it at that. what do people on this forum have agisnt Joel anyways, he is in the top 5 players in this league, I also happen to know he is an upstanding member of the newcastle region, usually helping out with childrens fundrasiers, coaching clincis wtc. If this is the same twerp from the jest forum I'd suggest a pre- strike before he posts in every thread on the forum to cause shite. Don't worry about him feeling pain from the bullet. No brains.
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Post by timmyv on Oct 9, 2007 17:08:51 GMT 10
TimmyV - I hope if Joel Griffiths gets punched in the balls and it's a "non-action" you'll have the same response. Griffiths SHOULD be banned for life, but he's not because obviously the FFA has no balls! If it's a refereeing problem Breeze should be suspended for not giving contact to an official as a yellow card. Hopefully players will be hacking J. Griffiths in that area each week from now on, no less than what he deserves and he shouldn't complain when it's only yellow. Newcastle - Producing Racist Official Assaulting Bogans since 2007. Mate i agree that he did the wrong thing. So does our manager GVE. In papers today has bigger story on GVE getting into the players on channelling their angry on and off the football field. I do believe he should have been citied for it, but it hasnt happen so i do believe its a non issue.
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mrkaant
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Post by mrkaant on Oct 9, 2007 17:09:32 GMT 10
So are you saying what i have said in the above thread is wrong?
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Post by T on Oct 9, 2007 17:10:22 GMT 10
T, that was NOT a legal challange! I'm not saying he doesnt dive, most players these days dive in one way or another. The tackle was legal just.... Danny went in one footed, not studs up and he did get the ball 1st, just. As I said watch the replay... both the replays for that matter. The look on the A/R face is pure shock.
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Post by mrkaant on Oct 9, 2007 17:14:47 GMT 10
The guy has a fairly well earned rep for being a diving champ... yeah, he may have been accidentally tripped by Danny, but take a close look at the replay, it was a legal tackle and as soon as Danny hit the ground Joel decided he was going down to, then he rolled around on the ground like a little girl. I have seen him hit by a shadow and watched him fall. The guy brings the game down, its players like him who are giving the sport a bad name, and getting it labelled a sport for pansy's. Stop being so one eyed and look at the facts. Support you team, yes. Stand up for them, yes, but FFS admit when they made a mistake. ahahaahahhahaahhahahahh hypercritical much? I wouldn't say hes bringing the game down, quite the opposite actually, fans all over love watching a player of joels ability and playing style play, its what paying your $20 dollars a game is all about, watching a player play FOR the club you support.
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Post by Andy on Oct 9, 2007 17:16:53 GMT 10
He is entitled to have his say to the ref, it's not as if every other player in the league doesn't do it, and alot of the time he has a point (eg/ when vukovic tripped him) Yes, he does have a right to say something to the referee. Not to swear at him or hit him, like he does.
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Post by mrkaant on Oct 9, 2007 17:17:16 GMT 10
It DOESN"T matter if he won the ball or not, joel was running through vukovic slide in with his feet, caught joel as he went past..simple.............FOUl, with a yellow to go with it.
if any other player from both teams for that matter,had done it in another place of the field there would be no discussion about it, BECAUSE IT WAS A FOUL!
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mrkaant
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Post by mrkaant on Oct 9, 2007 17:19:01 GMT 10
He is entitled to have his say to the ref, it's not as if every other player in the league doesn't do it, and alot of the time he has a point (eg/ when vukovic tripped him) Yes, he does have a right to say something to the referee. Not to swear at him or hit him, like he does. i think its about time you got with it buddy, basically every player swears at the ref, don't say its just joel or doesn't happen.
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Post by Andy on Oct 9, 2007 17:19:43 GMT 10
It DOESN"T matter if he won the ball or not, joel was running through vukovic slide in with his feet, caught joel as he went past..simple.............FOUl, with a yellow to go with it. if joel had done this or any other player in both teams for that matter, there would be no discussion about it, BECAUSE IT WAS A FOUL! You've just contradicted yourself. If he won the ball then it's not a foul.
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Post by Andy on Oct 9, 2007 17:21:12 GMT 10
Yes, he does have a right to say something to the referee. Not to swear at him or hit him, like he does. i think its about time you got with it buddy, basically every player swears at the ref, don't say its just joel or doesn't happen. I didn't say it's just Joel. What I said is that it shouldn't happen.
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mrkaant
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Post by mrkaant on Oct 9, 2007 17:21:58 GMT 10
No i havn't, It doesn't matter if you win the ball or not, if you trip someone its a FK
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Post by Andy on Oct 9, 2007 17:23:11 GMT 10
In the situation between Danny and Joel on Sunday night, it's not. If he gets the ball it's a clean tackle, in that situation.
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