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Post by djebella on Oct 14, 2007 22:16:16 GMT 10
I may be being paranoid, but watching the coverage on Fox, even Mike Cockerill and Robbie Slater sound like they think that there is something wrong with the refereeing!
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Post by thesandman on Oct 14, 2007 22:16:57 GMT 10
If anything it should've been a foul against Qld, he's the one who made a 2 footed studs up tackle. I can kind of understand how the ref made that decision, from the wrong angle it can look like Porter jumped in with studs after he was already on the ground. I think the ref's view was blocked, and he had a bad position, and basically made an amateurish mistake and made a decision on reflex, completely overreacting. When I saw the RC I thought 'that's a bit harsh...the Qld bloke didn't touch him. Yellow maybe, but red? WTF??? THAT''S FOR US?  ??' |
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Post by midfielder on Oct 14, 2007 22:18:34 GMT 10
Ref call a joke, I hope he is dropped next week. My top three, 1 Hutch, 2 Jedi, 3 no stand out prehaps Clark as he gave everything he had tonight. Hopefully goal keeping practice will see enforce the message if you come for it get it as besides the goal there were two other times the ball was missed.
Most pleasing aspect was the heart the team showed, they gave it their all and to me thats important.
Top team back soon, just hope tonights injuries not to serious.
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Post by midfielder on Oct 14, 2007 22:25:26 GMT 10
If anything it should've been a foul against Qld, he's the one who made a 2 footed studs up tackle. I can kind of understand how the ref made that decision, from the wrong angle it can look like Porter jumped in with studs after he was already on the ground. I think the ref's view was blocked, and he had a bad position, and basically made an amateurish mistake and made a decision on reflex, completely overreacting. When I saw the RC I thought 'that's a bit harsh...the Qld bloke didn't touch him. Yellow maybe, but red? WTF??? THAT''S FOR US? ??' Agree it happened just on front of us. In fact it appeared from where we were, and if true to their credit, both Frank F & Danny T, argued against the red. It should not even had been a card, amateurish maybe but maybe if unsighted he should have asked his touchie |
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Post by roylaw on Oct 14, 2007 22:27:27 GMT 10
Great second hald, really deserved a point. Hutchinson superb, controlled the midfield. Jedinak a rock. Heffernan and Pondeljak stood up to be counted. Liked the look of Owens and prepared to give Simon the benefit.
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Post by skilbeck on Oct 14, 2007 22:32:03 GMT 10
Petrovski is doing bugger all and there's not much threat from us up front at the moment I think if sasho wasn't the focus of the opposition's defense he would get a couple more chances now and then - i.e. if we had a more threatening striker along side him. i noticed petrovski was playing a bit deeper than normal possibly into the midfield to cover for the man down with simon up front. if porter didnt get that red which he shouldnt have, we wouldve been able to commit more forward in our attacks. for most of the game i reckon we did good considering we had an understrength side and we were a man down |
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Post by djebella on Oct 14, 2007 22:43:09 GMT 10
Watching the replay...
Reasons I like Mike Cockerill number 678:
"If you walked into the stadium right now you wouldn't know the Mariners were playing with only 10 men"
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Post by marinersman on Oct 14, 2007 22:48:05 GMT 10
Jedi was superb tonight. He impresses me so much and continues to get better and better. The amount of quality players Sydney United have churned out over the years is unbelievable. I'd love for us to set up sort some of arrangement with them. I bet they have more gems we could look at.
Roar were crap and very lucky. I'd be very unhappy if I was a roar fan with that type of performance.
Gutsy effort from the boys but there's no doubt we're simply not playing well at the moment. We need to lift our level considerably if we are going to make the four. We need to start putting teams away and stop conceding soft goals. That goal tonight was very, very poor. Roar never looked like scoring tonight and even with 10 men, it should have been at the least a comfotable draw.
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Post by djebella on Oct 14, 2007 22:51:53 GMT 10
Reasons I hate Robbie Slater number 132000203:
just after Robbie Kruse gets away with pulling Sonic's shirt and sonic gets penalised for returning the favour. Slater goes on for the next three minutes how bad Sonic's shirt pull was and how lucky he is to still be on the field.
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Post by midfielder on Oct 14, 2007 23:00:52 GMT 10
Jedi was superb tonight. He impresses me so much and continues to get better and better. The amount of quality players Sydney United have churned out over the years is unbelievable. I'd love for us to set up sort some of arrangement with them. I bet they have more gems we could look at. Did you know that the year Sydney United made the grand final against the Brisbane Strikers Lawie was assistant coach at Sydney United. Many Croatians I talked to at Liverpool said it was Lawie not David Mitchell the coach who got them to the grand final. So Lawie has many many friends and admirers at United. Problem United are a very much old football club, old in the sense of the Crawford report. So I cannot see it happening on a formal level but on an informal level I am sure it is happening now. |
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Post by skilbeck on Oct 14, 2007 23:09:46 GMT 10
Jedi was superb tonight. He impresses me so much and continues to get better and better. The amount of quality players Sydney United have churned out over the years is unbelievable. I'd love for us to set up sort some of arrangement with them. I bet they have more gems we could look at. Did you know that the year Sydney United made the grand final against the Brisbane Strikers Lawie was assistant coach at Sydney United. Many Croatians I talked to at Liverpool said it was Lawie not David Mitchell the coach who got them to the grand final. So Lawie has many many friends and admirers at United. Problem United are a very much old football club, old in the sense of the Crawford report. So I cannot see it happening on a formal level but on an informal level I am sure it is happening now. true sydney united is a great training ground and it would be great to tap it for a regular source of recruits but if you have a formal and official arrangement with them, being an ethnic croatian based club, you run the risk of the ethnic based part filtering through to the a league and if other clubs set up similar arrangements, the tensions that exist between these clubs will filter through to the a league and football will revert back to its pre-a-league ugliness. |
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Post by serious14 on Oct 14, 2007 23:58:01 GMT 10
1. Jedinak is damn near the heart of this team right now, and certainly the best player in the back half of our field. 2. Tommy and Gumps is a near-unstoppable combination that come a few important games this season, is going to fire in a way that will render the opposition toothless. DID YOU SEE GUMPS FIRE THE FARK UP FARKIN' EAST GERMAN STYLE!!!! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! 3. O'Leary is a marked man. Seriously, that prick had not want to set foot within 50 miles of Gosford again. Ever. What more can one say about that performance aside from "GO F*CK YOURSELF YOU F*CKING FAT F*CK OF AN EXCUSE OF A SHITHOUSE PIECE OF F*CK REFEREE C*NT!!!!". That's right, nothing.  4. De-list Mrdja now and get a new striker. Seriously, Mrdja's attitude is beyond sickening (we all saw him dicking around in the warm up - sore knee my arse) and we all know he want play for us again. Why waste time hoping for something that's not going to happen?? Suuuuuuuuuuuurely there's got to be some strikers out there who are good enough for the A-League and who would want to play for us. _SURELY_?!? |
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Post by bakery5 on Oct 15, 2007 0:02:48 GMT 10
1. Jedinak is damn near the heart of this team right now, and certainly the best player in the back half of our field. 2. Tommy and Gumps is a near-unstoppable combination that come a few important games this season, is going to fire in a way that will render the opposition toothless. DID YOU SEE GUMPS FIRE THE FARK UP FARKIN' EAST GERMAN STYLE!!!! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! 3. O'Leary is a marked man. Seriously, that prick had not want to set foot within 50 miles of Gosford again. Ever. What more can one say about that performance aside from "GO F*CK YOURSELF YOU F*CKING FAT F*CK OF AN EXCUSE OF A SHITHOUSE PIECE OF F*CK REFEREE C*NT!!!!". That's right, nothing. 4. De-list Mrdja now and get a new striker. Seriously, Mrdja's attitude is beyond sickening (we all saw him dicking around in the warm up - sore knee my arse) and we all know he want play for us again. Why waste time hoping for something that's not going to happen?? Suuuuuuuuuuuurely there's got to be some strikers out there who are good enough for the A-League and who would want to play for us. _SURELY_?!? Mate I have seen Nik on the dancefloor at Largo in the last few weeks and boy he f***ing better than Michael Slater on dancing with the stars. |
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Post by skilbeck on Oct 15, 2007 0:21:44 GMT 10
1. Jedinak is damn near the heart of this team right now, and certainly the best player in the back half of our field. 2. Tommy and Gumps is a near-unstoppable combination that come a few important games this season, is going to fire in a way that will render the opposition toothless. DID YOU SEE GUMPS FIRE THE FARK UP FARKIN' EAST GERMAN STYLE!!!! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! 3. O'Leary is a marked man. Seriously, that prick had not want to set foot within 50 miles of Gosford again. Ever. What more can one say about that performance aside from "GO F*CK YOURSELF YOU F*CKING FAT F*CK OF AN EXCUSE OF A SHITHOUSE PIECE OF F*CK REFEREE C*NT!!!!". That's right, nothing. 4. De-list Mrdja now and get a new striker. Seriously, Mrdja's attitude is beyond sickening (we all saw him dicking around in the warm up - sore knee my arse) and we all know he want play for us again. Why waste time hoping for something that's not going to happen?? Suuuuuuuuuuuurely there's got to be some strikers out there who are good enough for the A-League and who would want to play for us. _SURELY_?!? Mate I have seen Nik on the dancefloor at Largo in the last few weeks and boy he f***ing better than Michael Slater on dancing with the stars. lawrie should just give him an ultimatum. "get out there this weekend and do a decent job or else you can look for a new job on monday and dont expect too many of them to be in football." |
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Post by MrCelery on Oct 15, 2007 0:37:41 GMT 10
A bit of tidier finishing aside, I was pretty impressed by the performance and character of our "bare-bones" team, a man down particularly in the 2nd half. Pity such a soft goal was conceded early, the defence stayed firm from the debacle onward. I agree. While a disappointing result, and a disaster of a 1st half, there were plenty of positives in the second. If we can play that well with so few 1st teamers, it's a good sign. We were not the Yellow Army tonight, another player injured or sent of and we'd have been the Yellow Platoon. Yet, the boys dug deep, and were unlucky in the end not to take a point at least. With the Scum winning, it was a s**t of a nght, but better things to come I suspect. |
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Post by Keith Saffron on Oct 15, 2007 1:32:06 GMT 10
4. De-list Mrdja now and get a new striker. Seriously, Mrdja's attitude is beyond sickening (we all saw him dicking around in the warm up - sore knee my arse) and we all know he want play for us again. Why waste time hoping for something that's not going to happen?? Suuuuuuuuuuuurely there's got to be some strikers out there who are good enough for the A-League and who would want to play for us. _SURELY_?!? Didn't see him dicking about, but did see him running (quite comfortably) from behind the GA area in the direction of the west stand just after Porter got sent off, with a beer in his hand  And did anyone else notice the very sad sight of Ossie limping his way around the ground at one point? Looked like he was struggling to even walk  |
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Post by marinermick on Oct 15, 2007 8:51:06 GMT 10
Jedi was superb tonight. He impresses me so much and continues to get better and better. The amount of quality players Sydney United have churned out over the years is unbelievable. I'd love for us to set up sort some of arrangement with them. I bet they have more gems we could look at. Did you know that the year Sydney United made the grand final against the Brisbane Strikers Lawie was assistant coach at Sydney United. Many Croatians I talked to at Liverpool said it was Lawie not David Mitchell the coach who got them to the grand final. So Lawie has many many friends and admirers at United. Problem United are a very much old football club, old in the sense of the Crawford report. So I cannot see it happening on a formal level but on an informal level I am sure it is happening now. you are one year out lawrie mckinna was assistant coach to david mitchell at sydney united the season after they won the minor premiership and won the grand final i was working at sydney united in the winning 96/97 season and branko was the head coach with no direct number two |
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Post by newieutd on Oct 15, 2007 9:26:57 GMT 10
Reasons I hate Robbie Slater number 132000203: just after Robbie Kruse gets away with pulling Sonic's shirt and sonic gets penalised for returning the favour. Slater goes on for the next three minutes how bad Sonic's shirt pull was and how lucky he is to still be on the field. They were both pulling each others shirt then Kruse got away, Heffernan then dragged him down. Easy decision really |
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Post by newieutd on Oct 15, 2007 9:27:58 GMT 10
Ridiculous Red Card.
Yellow at the most and i would still aruge it wasnt that.
Mind you some angles of the tackle did make it look bad, even though it wasnt
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Post by marinersman on Oct 15, 2007 9:44:04 GMT 10
Did you know that the year Sydney United made the grand final against the Brisbane Strikers Lawie was assistant coach at Sydney United. Many Croatians I talked to at Liverpool said it was Lawie not David Mitchell the coach who got them to the grand final. So Lawie has many many friends and admirers at United. Problem United are a very much old football club, old in the sense of the Crawford report. So I cannot see it happening on a formal level but on an informal level I am sure it is happening now. true sydney united is a great training ground and it would be great to tap it for a regular source of recruits but if you have a formal and official arrangement with them, being an ethnic croatian based club, you run the risk of the ethnic based part filtering through to the a league and if other clubs set up similar arrangements, the tensions that exist between these clubs will filter through to the a league and football will revert back to its pre-a-league ugliness. There's been a lot written about "old football" and I understand how some people are concerned about not returning to the "bad old days". But really 99% of any reported incidents were media beatups just like we still have now with supposed crowd trouble.Of course there were some serious incidents but they were very rare and isolated. There are a lot of good judges out there who say the standard in the old NSL is as good if not better than the A-League and I tend to agree with that. The difference is perception. Today we have a well attended, well run competition and back then we didn't.We have excitement factor today and didn't back then. The media did a hatchet job and the old NSL and now they don't. I used to go to a lot of NSL games and regularly used to think, if you had 15,000-20,000 at those games you have a good product because the play on the field was very underated and a decent standard. I'm not for one minute saying there weren't problems and I'm glad the Crawford report happened because we seriously needed a fresh start and a new competition. I'm just saying the NSL in the main was unfairly maligned and produced super players, particularly Sydney United. I know a couple of the directors at Sydney United and have known many Croation people at SU over the years and I can tell you they are very proud Australians who love this country. It's just unfortunate that there was the odd dickhead in the crowd who caused trouble. I just think it's easy to over-react and be worried about the ethnic association with any relationship. I'm saying we could just have a simple arrangement whereby our people can be the first to look at their players before the other A-League clubs. I bet they've got more Jedis fo us. |
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