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Post by djebella on Nov 10, 2007 22:37:27 GMT 10
Loved Aloisi's comments after the game on Fox Sports News. (this is probably not exact) "Some people say we don't play good football. What are we 6 points in front? Lucky we don't play good football."
Aloisi, Johnny Aloisi. Aloisi, he's a Mariner!
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Post by mariners4ever on Nov 10, 2007 22:38:28 GMT 10
haha love it
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Post by marinersman on Nov 10, 2007 22:38:39 GMT 10
I think this was our best performance this season. To totally dominate and control the game the way we did against a very, very good team is proof we have been the best team in the competition. The ladder doesn't lie.
As good as Matty was (and he was very good), my man of the match was Jedi. Won just about every ball, many clean tackles and was responsible for starting a load of attacking moves. Good to see him continuing his runs forward as well. Is he now our most important player? If he keeps up this sort of form and continues improving, he could be deputy to Vinnie in our beloved Socceroos.
Very impressive effort all round from the boys. Top two is very realistic.
I long for the day that the media gives us the credit we deserve. But will it ever happen?
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Post by omni on Nov 10, 2007 22:39:13 GMT 10
Lawrie's comments were good too, and Aurelio answering Mick's question is on the Fox Sports News Clip - GOLD
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Post by mariners4ever on Nov 10, 2007 22:41:20 GMT 10
and what was that omni
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Post by omni on Nov 10, 2007 22:51:00 GMT 10
Ask Mick, it was just about what's changed in the last two weeks.
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Post by ~Floss~ on Nov 11, 2007 0:04:21 GMT 10
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Post by yellowcake on Nov 11, 2007 1:27:42 GMT 10
Just a fantastic night. Also credit to The Bay - in great form. Thanks. Even respect from Cockerill and Harper (particularly the closing comments). video2.foxsports.com.au/video.php?cat=408&id=5244Finally, at the PMF, my son Jordan (7) was having an audience with Clarky and Tommy. I noticed that they were actually interviewing him - "where do you sit", "what do you like most about the game today", "do you know who we're playing next...because we don't" (looking at his fixture card). Absolutely top bunch of guys we've got. WE ARE top of the league, we are TOP OF THE LEAGUE ;D |
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Post by northernspirit on Nov 11, 2007 6:21:55 GMT 10
were finally getting some respect out there, but good to hear a few anti robbie slater chants yesterday  |
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Post by bobandbill on Nov 11, 2007 8:38:41 GMT 10
Great performance by the team. Simon and Aloisi were fantastic - Simon was constently making runs, hold the ball, making turns and passes, while Aloisi showed us why he takes penalties - very calmly taken, and a good second goal as well. But how they hell the linesman think that Simon was offside...  Just shows how bad the refs are for the A-league. Wouldn't be surprised to see someone get given three yellow cards at this rate... Twas a nice pass to him from Aloisi but. Did the ref blow the wistle after Simon 'scored' to let Melbourn have a free-kick? If it was pulled back for ONLY the offside... ridicoulous really. Adelaide played better than Melbourn in my opinion, but were simply outclassed by us. Solid midfield and defence - we actually didn't switch off and kept pressuring the Adelaide attack backwards. Truly on of the best displays from the Mariners. Vukovic was immense - great goalkeeper. Only disappointing player for the Mariners was Kwasnik. Even if his airswing chance was deflected, he still spoilt most of his chances, and looked downright below average. Almost as bad as the linesman. |
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Post by brett on Nov 11, 2007 10:40:40 GMT 10
Standouts for me were Matt S, JA, Porter and Hutch.
Matt makes no apologies for his rawness and yes it is annoying to see him beat three guys to win the ball then pass it to an opponent, but he is getting better every game he plays and is a nightmare X-Factor for defenders to think about with the likes of JA and Tommy already lurking.
Aloisi is getting better also, the second goal was very classy, very un-A-League like, and the cross to Matty was brilliant.
Porter held his own at right back, mostly great positioning and good cover in the air with the weird over-the-top balls Adelaide wanted to constantly play.
Hutch is growing into a massive player this season. I was thinking about the characters that defined Melbourne's season last year, the Muscat story, the Fred story, the Arhcie story, and who these players are in our team. Hutch is becoming that midfield general holding it all together. Good on him.
The whole team was great and it's the best 90 minutes we've put together by far. Adelaide look like they need a kick up the bum Kossie style, I wonder if Aurelio has that in him?
Out of our players I would say Heff wasn't poor, but shone the least. A good shot from the free kick and one good cross but otherwise his touch still looked a bit off and the hack on Burns was one of the times he was caught out of position again. Still the balance he gives us on that side and the movement is something no other player can offer.
Word is that the Fox guys were told the wrong crowd so just had to announce it. Bit of a shame really, but who cares. Everyone who was there could see that was the biggest, noisiest crowd in Bluetongue for a long long time. The sound just after 2-0 was amazing. Really looking forward to Sydney at home and NYE for the next two games, should be 14k+ then 16k+ for those.
Funny about the advertising for Saturday's games leading up to Saturday "First the Mariners host Adelaide and then the big one..." and then the reporting of the games on Fox late last night and this morning. First they show highlights of a 'thrilling scoreless draw' from two teams outside the top four, then follow up the less important top of the table clash with a Socceroo striker netting two goals including a cracking volley.
It does seem to be perplexing and annoying a lot of people in the media that we're doing so well and that the poster teams are not. It would be good if they realised that there is another side of the A-League where teams can be shining without getting 30k crowds, because that's just where we come from. To be honest, with the football Newcastle are playing and good crowds up there they should get a bit more credit too. Who really cares though, we know what we're creating up here and that's all that matters!
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Post by mustapha_beer on Nov 11, 2007 10:49:06 GMT 10
Overall, a very good performance. Thought the defence was shaky early on - counted at least 2 free headers from set pieces, plus that cut back that their guy somehow put over. Heff, in particular, was struggling, and they knew it, as they kept on targeting him. The longer the game went on, though, the better they played. Thought Vidmar played one of his best games for us....one game doesn't make a season, but maybe, just maybe some of us (including me) have written him off too early. The midfield again looked good...having Jedinak back made a difference, and Hutch is getting better every game....not sure what happened to Gumps, though... ? Up front, was great to see Aloisi get off the mark. Pity it wasn't in front of the Marinators, but that's a minor detail. Simon was fantastic, a real shame he didn't get 1 for himself. I think McKinna was probably right to sub him when he did, though, as I'm not sure he had much more in him after the 75 minute shift he'd put in. The worst that can happen now is that Qld win and draw to within 4 of us. Next week should be interesting as well after Glory's result on Friday..... |
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Post by yellowcake on Nov 11, 2007 11:05:47 GMT 10
But how they hell the linesman think that Simon was offside... Just shows how bad the refs are for the A-league. Wouldn't be surprised to see someone get given three yellow cards at this rate... Twas a nice pass to him from Aloisi but. Did the ref blow the wistle after Simon 'scored' to let Melbourn have a free-kick? If it was pulled back for ONLY the offside... ridicoulous really I saw the flag early and I'm yelling at him to get back - everyone around me was looking at me as some sort of idiot screaming at Vukovic and saying get back you idiot. Funniest thing was that the Adelaide guy passed it to another Adelaide guy in an offside position - I actually think thats why Pryzdeck pulled it back. Linesman had his flag up. I wonder what would have happened if he wasn't offside.... I wondered why (if Przydacz had signalled Adelaide to resume) it wasn't then our FK for their offside. I hope it's an indication that if a ball had been lobbed in to the celebrating Danny's open goal it would have been called back Could have been a lot of big fines and bans for pitch invasion (me included) if they had score and it was allowed. |
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Post by midfielder on Nov 11, 2007 11:45:48 GMT 10
Out of our players I would say Heff wasn't poor, but shone the least. Not quite, Lawie played Jedi in CM, moved Hutch to LM. Hutch kept moving inside and across the park to hold the ball. This would have been Lawie game plan, however in game plan is always back up plan B. With Hutch moving inside so much Heff had to stay back and cover both LB & CL roles. Heff did very well off the ball covering for Hutch when Hutch moved to center of the park. Different role to what he plays normally but he carried out off the ball role very well. |
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Post by EGGBA on Nov 11, 2007 19:22:37 GMT 10
Loving the fired up confident talk in this thread boys! The Mariners as a team and club need a bit more arrogance. We haven't gone out and played well for 90 minutes yet this season...we need to be able to go out and say 'We are better than you and we are gonna prove it all night long'. Yeah, we need to be focussed, wary, prepared, but all those things are a given under Lawrie. What we need is to get past 'We can win the league' and start saying 'We are going to win the f***ing league and shit on you all in the process!' One of these games we're going to put 90 together and I don't care if it's against Adelaide, Newcastle or Perth, no team can get near us on the rare occasion we do that. We need a touch of arrogance, without the complacency, to expect to go out and do that week after week. Too easy  Ask and you shall recieve that is exactly how the boys played the boys never looked like losing that one we put the 90 together and just carved up.Bay 16 also played for the full90 that was the bays best performance since rnd 1 in sydney. |
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Post by northernspirit on Nov 11, 2007 19:25:28 GMT 10
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Post by marinermick on Nov 12, 2007 9:40:11 GMT 10
what an awesome display in the second half - we just overrun them physically
some points:
- matt s was offside by a shade before the ball went to aloisi and that was why he was pulled up
- our new system looked great with four at the back, three in the middle (hutch left, mile middle and owens right), tommy as the free role and the two strikers. it provided so much mobility with the two outside backs getting forward
- adelaide were just smashed physically and had too many young and small players
- our players are yet to peak because of injuries and new combinations (scary when we do)
- mile was immense and my MOM
- we missed wilko's leadership at the back the last ten weeks and our defensive shape was the best this season due to his organisation
- did i say we are yet to peak
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Post by djebella on Nov 12, 2007 10:01:30 GMT 10
some points: - matt s was offside by a shade before the ball went to aloisi and that was why he was pulled up But doesn't the ball going to Aloisi mean that Aloisi would have had to be offside for the call to be correct? |
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Post by brett on Nov 12, 2007 10:02:00 GMT 10
Thought Vidmar played one of his best games for us....one game doesn't make a season, but maybe, just maybe some of us (including me) have written him off too early. Hmmm...I would say he's had two bad games and the rest good, yet people write him off based on the two. Have people forgotten all those cleans sheets we kept, even with no Wilko? But how many bad games does Gumps have to have to not be the saviour? Gumps is great but he is injured and the team is cruising without him - what's with the 'what happened to Gumps' at this point in time  |
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Post by dibo (pron. "DIB-OH") on Nov 12, 2007 10:04:19 GMT 10
some points: - matt s was offside by a shade before the ball went to aloisi and that was why he was pulled up Agree with all other comments but this one I have to pull up –I think the AR was wrong to pull it up. Short version – First pass: Simon’s in an offside position but out of the play, play on. Second pass: Simon’s in an onside position, plays for the ball and scores. Goal. Long version – By my understanding of the Law, even under the old interpretation this would have been the case, but particularly with the new (as of 2 or so years ago) interpretation of the passive player, play is not to be stopped unless the player is offside at the point the ball is played to him. At all other times if a player is offside but not interfering with play (taking a very direct interpretation – either playing for the ball or interfering with or blocking the view of another player who could play for the ball) then play continues. So in this case when the ball is played to Aloi Aloi Aloiiiiii-si and Simon is in an offside position, as Simon is neither playing for the ball nor directly interfering with another player who could play for the ball play should continue. When the next ball is played, Simon is in an onside position as Aloi Aloi Aloiiiiii-si had advanced the ball and played him on. He has every right to play for the ball, which he did and scored a legitimate goal which was subsequently disallowed. *************************** The other stuff is right on - the team was super creative and really really active. Owens and Heffernan were maybe a little off at times without being *bad* as such, but they were maybe shaded by the fact that the rest of the team absolutely killed. Then with Boogs, O'Grady, Sasho, Browny and Gumper all coming back in, we've got lots of options and look pretty handy. |
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Just shows how bad the refs are for the A-league. Wouldn't be surprised to see someone get given three yellow cards at this rate... Twas a nice pass to him from Aloisi but.
