Gosford Council Field Restrictions

[thesandman]

jesus said:

Apparently the reason the new tanks at terrigal were not approved was that there was not enough catchment area for them to be worthwhile. Or something along those lines

Wasn't part of the proposal that the council wouldn't have to pay a cent? In that case, why should they even care if there's enough catchment area or not?

[offtheball]

Surely the attitude should be every little bit helps. You would have to admit the amenities area at Terrigal is one of the smaller areas but the water collected is better on the fields than down the drain.

[Jesus]

Apparently the point is to do with 2 half full tanks, or 1 full one. No need for a second.

As well as where to put it. The ground is a multi use ground, and none of the playing areas are to be infringed so council says. There is no place to put it which wouldnt have it right on, or within say a metre of a field. That may change when rugby league is moved from duffys. But for now would infringe on leagues in goals, or the unders 10 or so pitch.

[Jesus]

Terrigal also wanted a clubhouse. But since they are not the soul tennants, any clubhouse would have to be jointly shared by cricket and athletics.

Same problem for water i presume.

[offtheball]

Sharing of resources sounds the logical way to go. Huge numbers involved in the football club and little a's should warrant some council/gov assistance in the provision of a decent club house.

[Jesus]

Unfortunately, terrigal has the funds for a clubhouse, but cricket and athletics would have to own 1/3 of it each, and do not have the funds by any means.

[albionrovers]

Regarding water restrictions for clubs:

Could the sporting bodies of the Central Coast speak with the Bush Fire Brigade and come to an agreement.
The Bush Firies need to withdraw water from local creeks to fill their tanks in order to practice relevant fire drills. The local clubs encourage the Bushies to practice on their fields and repay them with a token reward of what ever we agree. Win Win Win for all, but soon please

[Fish]

I hear a rumour that if the dam level drops below 10% the relevant Councils will close the fields as they will deem the grounds to hard and dangerous thus meaning insurances become void and rendering the coming season useless.I hope it doesnt come to that but I hope more so we get some decent rain into the catchment shortly.

[johnnywarren]

as i said in previous (re keech) threads that level 5 water will make the fields null and void and we don't want that.

maybe the dick from ccea (the one who wrote the story on football hooligans) might want to target the council over there preferred preference of cricket and making fields look pristine in the summer as to football and rugby league and union get the raw deal in winter.

but as fish just we need water on fields and by looking through the replies to this thread the council needs to be brought to the attention of the taxpaying people up here and be exposed on where prefrences lie for sporting fields and why won't they let clubs put the bores in if they want to pay for it.

obviously the paper work must be too hard to stamp for the council.

[Jesus]

I never understand why we let the likes of Coke take so much water from the water table in the mountains for a small licence fee. Especially with such water shortage, all those licenses should be revoked. We can not afford to sell that water, certainly not for the pitance we do recieve espeically.

[Perm]

what fish said happened last season in Melbourne areas.
they pulled football and afl seasons.

[thedoc]

There are two water tanks at Terrigal now and they have been there since just before Christmas. From the road you can see that they have been covered in grafeti but I'm not sure how much water is in them. I'll try and find out. Also the southern end of Duffys is always a flood zone after rainfall. With better drainage surely they could be spreading the water around the ground and not just have it sit there watering the shot put rings.

[Jesus]

duffys sits on a tonne of clay. In order to properly fix the drainage they would need to add a hell of a lot of topsoil. Which is possible ofcourse, and has been done at other places. But i dont think it will happen with so little water, since on top of new soil would be a need for new grass. Grass needing a reasonable amount of water to grow initially.

[jollyroger]

The most absurd thing about the policy of restricting usage to two days is this;

I dont know of any teams that train anymore than two days per week. The policy does not restrict the use of fields, but rather leads to a greater concentration of use over two days than say moderate usage over three or four days.

In past years at Umina, the senior teams train Tuesday and Thursday at 7.00pm (Probably as per most other grade teams on the coast) and all junior teams were instructed to be off the field by the time seniors started. Wednesday nights were always an option for junior coachs who found it difficult to train their teams and be off the field before 7.00pm. They could stay back later to say 7.30 or 8.00pm without any hassle. What are the junior coaches who have exercised the Wednesday night option in the past going to do now? Give up coaching because they cannot fit within the tueday and thursday time slots?

I love coaching and want to coach but i can see the policy hindering my ability to train my team within the aloted time frames that the club are surely going to impose

[Jesus]

It does restrict. By teams it means the club. Terrigal can only train on duffys tues and thurs for example. That means no terrigal team can train mon,weds,fri etc.
Not just say All Age 1 training tues and thurs

most teams do train on those days. But some would otherwise train on weds, for example. The rest day does help

[Bearinator]

I think everyone should stop complaining obout only being able to train 2 nights a week. Why??? Its either that, or no season at all. Would you all rather be able to train any night of the week you like, and not play at all on weekends cos the fields are f***ed??? Or would you rather play every weekend, and train only 2 nights a week???

Think of it like that before you have a cry.

[jollyroger]

The point that I was trying make is that teams or clubs will not train less through only accessing the fields on two days. It just means that there is a concentration of usage over two days rather than moderate usage over three to four days. I cannot see the damage to the grounds being significantly less.

The rest day may apply on some fields which are used by a single code, but for many fields that are used by more than one code it is a myth. Umina Oval is shared with Rugby League and Soccer. One would assume that different codes will sort it out amongst themselves as to what days will be used for training.. If soccer grab Tuesday and Thursday, Rugby league may grab Monday & Wednesday. Hence the rest day doesn’t exist.

Bearinator, as I have said above, most teams don’t train more than two days so it isn’t that much of an issue. My problem is that it restricts the days available for a coach to train a team. For example, I cannot train a team on a Tuesday or Thursday night due to my wife’s commitments at university, Wednesday is the only night available for me. This option is extinguished through the council policy as most likely Tuesday and Thursday will be the training nights at the club. Therefore the policy denies me the opportunity to coach.

[Jesus]

That is where school grounds can be helpful. And ultinate options. One year my team trained purely at terrigal primary because our coach could not train on the days we were allotted.

[jollyroger]

i dont know of any schools that have flood lights

[Jesus]

flood lights are for wimps