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Post by Andy on Mar 5, 2007 10:08:39 GMT 10
This was a quote taken from SFCU. I reckon this strengthens the rumour if the players have told people theres a possibility in him signing.
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Post by marinermick on Mar 5, 2007 10:18:33 GMT 10
This was a quote taken from SFCU. I reckon this strengthens the rumour if the players have told people theres a possibility in him signing. as you said, this has been a rumour for a while and i guess this reporter has been rehashing old news this is my take on it: - singo, in his tradition of bringing stars to australia (paris, tara reid), wants to do the same at the mariners - has told a few people, including at the club, that it would be great if he can dwight yorke here - rumour circulates |
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Post by Andy on Mar 5, 2007 10:24:44 GMT 10
This was a quote taken from SFCU. I reckon this strengthens the rumour if the players have told people theres a possibility in him signing. as you said, this has been a rumour for a while and i guess this reporter has been rehashing old news this is my take on it: - singo, in his tradition of bringing stars to australia (paris, tara reid), wants to do the same at the mariners - has told a few people, including at the club, that it would be great if he can dwight yorke here - rumour circulates That's probaly it. Also with Dwight previously stating he would love to return to Australia, it further spreads the rumour. |
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Post by northernspirit on Mar 5, 2007 10:51:14 GMT 10
reading on the sydney forums it was good to see the SFC fans are supportive of such a move should it happen without holding grudges or mocking it, its a long way off but thats good for the league that other clubs would welcome him to a rival a-league club
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Post by DJ on Mar 5, 2007 11:23:10 GMT 10
IMO it's simple and will be like the Viddy situation....
Lawrie will not be looking at bringing Yorke here.....but if someone says to him "hey do you want Dwight Yorke?", he'll probably say yes!
Personally I can't see it
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Post by northernspirit on Mar 5, 2007 11:26:10 GMT 10
i agree with dj
cant see it happening
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Post by bikinigirl on Mar 5, 2007 11:55:14 GMT 10
I tend to think that we have a decent midfield roster as it is. Dwight upfront maybe a proposition, but he did seem more dangerous when he was with Sydney, in that midfield role. I respect Singo's willingness to put his money where his heart his, Lawrie must be surely humbled to have a bloke like Singo to have as a friend....but I can't help thinking that if Singo was to put some serious $$ up, Lawrie would opt for something different. . singo must be surely humbled to have a bloke like lawrie to have as a friend? . seriously, good to see that singo has enough respect & faith in lawrie . also good that it is if lawrie chooses (which i don't think he would) and not: 'this is what i want, even though i have never managed a football team' |
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Post by bikinigirl on Mar 5, 2007 11:59:51 GMT 10
. i think we are getting pretty close on a full roster now anyway
. i do like to idea of vers. 1 : we don't have a marquee signing we have 20 (now 23)
. it does suit the coast more
. another marquee to pull in some more interest and sponsors has merit but a more successful team in vers. 3 i think will increase this along with crowd numbers
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Post by mustapha_beer on Mar 5, 2007 12:08:52 GMT 10
I can understand the appeal associated with signing what is - by A-League standards - a marquee player. I just don't think Yorke is the one we need. From what I saw, he was far more effective in midfield and that - as many people have pointed out - is where we're already well stocked. We need another striker to help out Petrovski, especially since we've no guarantee of getting a full season from Mrdja.
It's great to see that Singleton is willing to provide funds for Lawrie, but those funds could be far better spent elsewhere, in my humble........
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Post by Coaster on Mar 5, 2007 13:04:55 GMT 10
This is just my very humble opinion:
First and foremost: I am a Dwight Yorke fan. The guy is talent. However...
I have got the feeling that a Marquee player in Version three will be seen differently than perhaps what they were in Version one.
Let me explain. Dwight Yorke is a prime example - his signing for Sydney at the start of the "new football" era was a publicists dream. There they were: a *new* team, with a world-renowned player, ex-Manchester United, no less. It can be argued that his profile was more important to the establishment of Sydney FC as an organisation - in regards to attendances, publicity, memberships, corporate interest, sponsorships - than his performances on-field. Yorke was there, simply put, to help build a following.
Version 3 will be different. The previous two seasons have grown and, in some areas, exceeded expectations. Teams seemingly have there following now, and so, I believe, money should be spent on quality players (not particularly big-names) who can get wins, score goals, play exciting football etc. An extremely good Czech (just picked a country) striker - perhaps an up-and-comer - who will consistently score goals and do everything I've mentioned above would be money better spent than forking out for someone like Dwight Yorke.
Look at Milton and Newcastle. No one had heard of him before he arrived, now he's a fan favourite. Lets create a new generation of new stars, rather than pick at the ‘scraps’ of years-gone-by. ‘Band-wagon’ football supporters want to see exciting play – few would care who it came from, surely.
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Post by marinermick on Mar 5, 2007 13:16:36 GMT 10
Coaster, I agree totally, but as it is Singo putting up the cash, he will go for a big name - as is his style.
If he cannot go for the big name he won't spend the cash.
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Post by bikinigirl on Mar 5, 2007 14:05:07 GMT 10
. i am not so sure about this
. yes i can understand what your saying, singo would want to see something for his money in a household name - but how many household names are there (thinking australian households)
. if it is a name to impress non-football families (of varying degrees) i think former clubs may actually mean more
. as mentioned dwight was from man. united - everbody has heard of them, but how many even knew of dwight yorke or had seen him play
. true household names cost tens of millions
. but also remember fred & milton were not marquees which is what we are talking about here
. singo is an advertising guru if anyone can spin some relative unknown (non-household name) with talent surely he is the man - especially if its his money
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Post by Coaster on Mar 5, 2007 14:28:43 GMT 10
If he cannot go for the big name he won't spend the cash. Disappointing a bit, isn't it? I realise he was just a guest, and not a marquee, but.. One word: Romario. Big name. Massive cash. What a F*cking on-field disaster that was. Adelaide could of possibly challenged for the Premiership if Romario hadn't disrupted things. Big names don’t always mean big things - as bikinigirl says, Fred and Milton were never Marquees. Maybe someone should tell Singo…  |
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Post by Andy on Mar 5, 2007 14:39:10 GMT 10
While Romario was there with the Barrel Boys yes he did cause their on-field performance to suffer, but what about off the field? How much advertising was done prior to his arrival? There was a fair bit leading up to his game against us.
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Post by Coaster on Mar 5, 2007 14:53:03 GMT 10
Andyj, Very true. I even ventured down to see the home game against Adelaide. There was decent publicity around him, but there was a bigger crowd on NYE against Melbourne anyway. Furthermore, crowds in Adelaide didnt increase *that much* during his time there.
Just reiterating what I said in my initial post in this thread – football fans are getting better informed, I think. They’d rather see money well spent on a 'no-name' who is a premium player, than on a big name who ‘might pay off’. Disagree? Have a look at how many people wanted Romario to stay after his stint. It was laughable. Sure, he got the club publicity, and sure, I’d agree that there’s “no such thing as bad publicity”, but I don’t believe he did the credibility of Adelaide United, and that of the A-League, any good at all.
I'm a fan of the Marquee system - just think clubs should recruit smarter, not bigger.
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Post by Jesus on Mar 5, 2007 14:54:15 GMT 10
Adelaide say that Romario was a huge win for the club. It promotes the team internationally, and the league as a whole. It sold tickets, and helps bring in business dollars.
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Post by marinerbhoy on Mar 5, 2007 14:58:43 GMT 10
agree with most, would rather the finanaces go to further recruitment, following the steps of melb would be great.
if sunderland dont go up, then i think yorke would want to come back to aus. i cant only see him in england next season if sunderland are in the prem.
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Post by Coaster on Mar 5, 2007 15:07:18 GMT 10
I know this threads gone a wee bit off topic - initially being about Yorke and all - and I know I'm pretty much to blame. My bad.
However, just while we are on Romario: In hindsight, I think he was more of a burden than a blessing. Adelaide may say that he "promoted the team internationally", which he may of, marginally, but I can remember reading that, while Adelaide's games were televised to Brazil and South America during his stint, something like 98% of viewers tuned out whenever he was subbed off. That's not promoting the league, that's promoting Romario. Adelaide United will point to some of the benefits of having him, but I don’t think they are as big as what the club would have you believe. . Personally, I was really disappointed with the guy – I knew he wouldn’t be as good as he was in years gone by, but he proved disruptive to the clubs’ season more than anything.
I've stated before, Adelaide is my second team in our league. The main reason for this is their off-field activities. I think they showed incredible initiative organising their 'partnership' with Miami FC. It is a club that is going forward. However, they're in Asia now for two years, the best way to promote the club internationally is to do well in the ACL.
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Post by Rubbernose on Mar 5, 2007 15:51:30 GMT 10
Adelaide say that Romario was a huge win for the club. It promotes the team internationally, and the league as a whole. It sold tickets, and helps bring in business dollars. I think some of those business dollars paid for Romario too, by proxy. I think I recall that the club was given basically Romario's salary in sponsorship from some company, on the proviso that Romario was signed for that guest stint. |
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Post by northernspirit on Mar 5, 2007 16:21:31 GMT 10
agree with most, would rather the finanaces go to further recruitment, following the steps of melb would be great. if sunderland dont go up, then i think yorke would want to come back to aus. i cant only see him in england next season if sunderland are in the prem. remembering clubs cull players from championship side and recruit better players for prem league in attempt to stay up so i doubt he would make the EPL grade now |
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