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Post by bikinigirl on Mar 5, 2007 16:25:24 GMT 10
. i think that romario is a valid link to the yorke discussion as he is closer to that extreme than the other . i have to disagree that any publicity is good publicity . some things were poorly handled when the circus came to town and i think they discouraged people . the cost of romario was only an issue for kossie because he had to play him regardless . he did draw a few more people in (some coming only to see him and may never go to another a-league match - i was standing next to them when waiting for the gates to open) . others that had bought the hype and didn't have a clue who romario was also said they wouldn't come to another game as it wasn't worth the hassle (hot with poor crowd management) . then the guy was airswinging, etc ..... surely this is not a good advertisement of the league . the uninitiated would have been thinking if this is as good as it gets i am not interested
.... buy carefully people
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Post by Perm on Mar 5, 2007 21:07:02 GMT 10
your point form is annoying to read.
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Post by Jesus on Mar 5, 2007 21:20:46 GMT 10
Coaster you have to remember this point adelaide made very clearly when i read their talk about it. International publicity was not to sell adelaide shirts in PNG or South Africa, or Brazil.
What it did do was make it easier for adelaide united to recruit players, eg Diego. It lifts the status of the club to players. Adelaide said they recieved a large number of resumes from players who would never have thought about playing in australia, without seeing someone like romario here.
It gives Australia a place on the map for young players who think, one day i could play against the likes of romario in a beautiful place like australia, and makes them more likely to be willing to come out here.
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Post by Perm on Mar 5, 2007 21:25:38 GMT 10
if the guy is still fit for Championship football. he will still own in the A-league. simple. the guys good and he will bring more numbers to games. also adding status to the name and the dream that is the Mariners.
some pom - "wheres Dwight gone?" another pom - "Central Coast Mariners" some pom - "whos that? i might wiki them when i get home"
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Post by Fish on Mar 5, 2007 21:29:34 GMT 10
Coaster you have to remember this point adelaide made very clearly when i read their talk about it. International publicity was not to sell adelaide shirts in PNG or South Africa, or Brazil. What it did do was make it easier for adelaide united to recruit players, eg Diego. It lifts the status of the club to players. Adelaide said they recieved a large number of resumes from players who would never have thought about playing in australia, without seeing someone like romario here. Or you could go on Ebay and buy 1 of a dozen Adelaide shirts with Romario on the back people are trying to off load ;D If it worked financially for Adelaide kudos to them but we are a different market and need someone younger and more relevant It gives Australia a place on the map for young players who think, one day i could play against the likes of romario in a beautiful place like australia, and makes them more likely to be willing to come out here.
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Post by Adz on Mar 5, 2007 21:39:49 GMT 10
As for the age debate, Yorke is a spring chicken compared with Sheringham, who Sydney are apparently chasing..
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Post by Jesus on Mar 5, 2007 21:43:00 GMT 10
agree that we dont want a romario. At least i dont lol
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Post by Adz on Mar 5, 2007 21:49:28 GMT 10
romario can sell raffle tickets in the kendall bar for us if he wants, but that's about it
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Post by marinerbhoy on Mar 5, 2007 22:28:01 GMT 10
agree with most, would rather the finanaces go to further recruitment, following the steps of melb would be great. if sunderland dont go up, then i think yorke would want to come back to aus. i cant only see him in england next season if sunderland are in the prem. remembering clubs cull players from championship side and recruit better players for prem league in attempt to stay up so i doubt he would make the EPL grade now sunderland were last at the start of the season. even worse than leeds scum. roy keane took over, sought improvment, and yorke was seen as vital part of that. he has been playing week in week out, and has been integral in the mackems transformation. why would you get rid of a key part of a succesful promotion campaign. WBA didn't get rid of Kanu West Ham didn't get rid of Sheringham. if the cats go up yorke will stay with them. not saying he will play a pivotal role like he does now, but in no way would they get rid of him. but if they stay in the championship, they will have to offload some players to make sure they dont go into too much debt.
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Post by Jesus on Mar 5, 2007 23:00:22 GMT 10
Dwight may want to move. He has made enough money to take a paycut if hed prefer to be chasing the girls in oz.
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Post by marinermick on Mar 6, 2007 7:46:48 GMT 10
Dwight may want to move. He has made enough money to take a paycut if hed prefer to be chasing the girls in oz. if dwight does come we should start a campaign for smitta to be yorkey's wingman!
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Post by Jesus on Mar 6, 2007 10:08:51 GMT 10
haha. Agreed
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Post by Andy on Mar 6, 2007 15:53:37 GMT 10
remembering clubs cull players from championship side and recruit better players for prem league in attempt to stay up so i doubt he would make the EPL grade now sunderland were last at the start of the season. even worse than leeds scum. roy keane took over, sought improvment, and yorke was seen as vital part of that. he has been playing week in week out, and has been integral in the mackems transformation. why would you get rid of a key part of a succesful promotion campaign. WBA didn't get rid of Kanu West Ham didn't get rid of Sheringham. if the cats go up yorke will stay with them. not saying he will play a pivotal role like he does now, but in no way would they get rid of him. but if they stay in the championship, they will have to offload some players to make sure they dont go into too much debt. But will Dwight want to play in the EPL? At 36 he might think he doesn't want to go around another year in the most physical league in the world, struggling against relegation. Like previuosly mentioned, he has stated he wants to return to Australia. If he does decide to return to Australia, I think we could rule out a return to Sydney FC, Following that Court Case battle last month, when they both tried to sue each other. I think that would leave a bitter taste in Dwight's mouth, plus Bling probaly wouldn't want him.
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Post by marinerbhoy on Mar 6, 2007 16:01:59 GMT 10
i think yorke would want to. i think he is contracted for next season. if they fail in promotion, he will have no problem getting a release. i just doubt he will say no to the prem, esp with a team that he just got promoted with.
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Post by Rowdy on Mar 6, 2007 18:12:59 GMT 10
CCEA Wednesday, March 7, 2007
Headline; McKinna: we are not interested in Yorke. Article by Paul Newman
Mariners coach Lawrie McKinna said he had no interest in signing former Sydney FC star Dwight Yorke.
McKinna was responding to a report in the Sunday telegraph that Central Coast businessman John Singleton would help bring Yorke to the coast if McKinna wanted him.
"I haven't spoken to John for six months and we will not be pursuing Dwight Yorke"
"I'm not saying Dwight is not a good player but he is not the type of player we need here."
Yorke helped lift the profile of the A-League in it's first season on his way to steering Sydney FC to the 2005-06 title.
McKinna said Yorke would not fit in well at the mariners- both on and off the field.
"he was great for Sydney but I don't think he'd fit in with the style of team we have here on the coast and we don't need someone in that midfield role."
McKinna said his midfield quota would be full if he could sign Greg Owens from Adelaide United.
Owens met with the Mariners last week but talks have been put on hold while Owens awaits the birth of his child.
Several positions in the Mariners 23-man squad for the 2007-08 season remain open.
McKinna and assistant coaches Alex Tobin and Ian Ferguson are casting an eye over the NSW Premier League for talent because few A-League players are available and suitable overseas players are in short supply.
"We had one resume from a Brazilian player asking for US$500,00 ($643,600)," McKinna said.
"He did have a bit of pedigree but was a bit out of our price range for this competition."
McKinna watched Central Coast Lightning play on Saturday night, Ferguson watched the Sydney United match on the weekend and Tobin checked out Marconi.
One possible recruit for the Mariners is Dean Heffernan, who is a chance of returning from Germany.
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Post by LeedsMariner#4 on Mar 6, 2007 18:26:50 GMT 10
not really suprising that lawrie has said no the heff will he/wont he return is going to go on for ages i think anyone know when owen's baby is due??
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Post by Rowdy on Mar 6, 2007 18:36:00 GMT 10
Some very interesting and insightful quotes from our gaffer in that article. In particular that he thinks DW "is not the type of player we NEED here", & "would not FIT in well @ the Mariners- both on & off the filed." In addition he said that "we don't NEED someone in that midfield role" but then goes on to say, somewhat contradictory, that the midfield would be complete with the signing of Owens. Some people may beg to ask the question "isn't DW a far more superior attacking midfielder when compared to GO?" I personally would prefer the "'O" for exactly the same reasons that Lawrie stated he wouldn't want DW. "O" would hate the scum just as much as us, if he signs i'd be salivating for that first clash hoping he takes the field. I think DW would be too big for our small club, at this stage of our evolution. Could anyone really picture 'All-Night-Dwight' rocking up to primary schools to help promote the club and do it with out 'going through the motions, begrudgingly as a part of his contract? High School's maybe, ;D As far as the money spent on him for a monetary return, people of the coast could have turned out to see him play for Syd FC when they played up here, the 'tongue' wasn't packed to the rafters on those occasions and I can't see it turning around and being 'sell-out' crowds just because he's now sporting the mighty blue&yellow. If people were interested in watching the legendary Yorke play they would come and do so, regardless of what coloured strip he wears and that didn't happen in great numbers when he ventured up the F3.
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Post by Jesus on Mar 6, 2007 19:36:15 GMT 10
I think the difference of GO to DW for Lawrie is that he can use owens wide.
The Sonic thing has gone on for ages because his contract is not up, and until he is not getting paid he will keep looking for an employer whoi will pay him the most. When his contract expires, if he has not found a gig elsewhere, he will likely return here.
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Post by bobandbill on Mar 6, 2007 19:55:35 GMT 10
Who's the brazillen that was mentioned? Half a mil US is a bit much to ask for... unless he's a big name.
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Post by Andy on Mar 6, 2007 20:04:35 GMT 10
I think it's a bit of a let down having Lawrie say that he hasn't spoken to John for six months. That article made it sound like they had been in regular contact, with Singo willing to pay for a big name to come to the club. I hope there still is a chance that Singo will fund a big marquee player such as DW, but I doubt it. I don't think the Heff situation will finish for ages. Heff probaly doesn't even know what he's going to do next season IMO.
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