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Post by Chimmi Churri on Oct 9, 2007 14:36:01 GMT 10
ah, thanks guys!
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Post by Bearinator on Oct 9, 2007 14:37:51 GMT 10
Bear, yep, The Age actually called the yellow card a "Get Out of Jail Free Card" f*** I hate that f***wit. Id hate him if he played for Sydney Id hate him if he played for Queensland Id hate him if he played for West Ham Id hate him if he played for us Id hate him if he played for anyone except Silverwater's inside team He would be the biggest bitch inside, and its nothing more than he deserves Im cranky  |
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Post by radar on Oct 9, 2007 16:08:24 GMT 10
I would suggest to the guy who burned the scarf - why don't you wrap it around your neck first, THEN light it.
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Post by bakery5 on Oct 9, 2007 16:43:39 GMT 10
Now alot of the stuff in both those complaints are valid and to Marinersman well done for sticking to your guns about these situations. Fire in a ground regardless of nature is illegal and people should be arrested, banned etc... Only thing i disagree about here is the Jets fans were the only ones to start/be blamed for the scuffles. Im not condoning the actions just that an open view from both sides without laying blame on either sets of fans, just the people involved From what I saw, it was SOME mariners fans starting SOME of the pushing, but only in retaliation to having "1-0 and you f***ed it up" in there faces. No one deserves that shit. just walk away  |
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Post by timmyv on Oct 9, 2007 17:20:40 GMT 10
lads, i hav made my view clear on our forum but will also do it here.
This has been coming for sometime now. Alot of people involved with the Squadron need to pull there heads in. There actions are leaving a very bad name on the Squadron and Jets supporters in general aswell as the wonderful game that we all love and support. This isnt justa issue with the Squadron but all groups. We will always get peckerheads that actions put a bad name on the group. Its about controlling the majortity of the group.
Security on sunday night was a joke. There needs to be alot more/ Aswell there should be some more police about. On our walk back to train station did not see one police officer at all. Its a friggen disgrace. I know they cant be everywhere but something has to be done.
The people regarding the scarf have been spoken to and if it goes further it does. But im sure it wont happen again.
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Post by Pete on Oct 9, 2007 17:43:04 GMT 10
Timmy
I know you've been reasonable enough on this forum to date, and in all due respect:
1)I read here yesterday on one of these threads where you scoffed at the security's word to you about being responsible for the group as you had the megaphone. You have now mentioned controlling the majority of the group. That's what security was on about to you on Sunday night, mate.
2)Why did you feel the need for a police escort to the train station?
Is it because you posed a threat because of said peckerheads or because you genuinely felt threatened and in genuine fear of your safety?
Any other reason other than those and the police have no genuine need to escort you -and yes, I used to work in law enforcement many moons ago. Did you make any approach to their local commander and request an escort or even ask the police assigned to your bay at the Stadium what the exit arrangements were?
3) So you know the people who have brought the game into disrepute then? Tell the FFA who they are mate, for the good of the game.
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Post by timmyv on Oct 9, 2007 18:03:23 GMT 10
Timmy I know you've been reasonable enough on this forum to date, and in all due respect: 1)I read here yesterday on one of these threads where you scoffed at the security's word to you about being responsible for the group as you had the megaphone. You have now mentioned controlling the majority of the group. That's what security was on about to you on Sunday night, mate. 2)Why did you feel the need for a police escort to the train station? Is it because you posed a threat because of said peckerheads or because you genuinely felt threatened and in genuine fear of your safety? Any other reason other than those and the police have no genuine need to escort you -and yes, I used to work in law enforcement many moons ago. Did you make any approach to their local commander and request an escort or even ask the police assigned to your bay at the Stadium what the exit arrangements were? 3) So you know the people who have brought the game into disrepute then? Tell the FFA who they are mate, for the good of the game. k mate. 1) Im was there as a fan on Sunday, Thats all i ever be at a Jets match a very passionate supporter of my team. In no way can i tell another fan or person what to do. I'm not in the position to and simply wont unless im standing up for myself, family or friends etc.. 2. i dont feel that we need police esort, but i do believe if there was some around. Actions of some people would have been alot different. 3. Again im not in the position to act on other peoples behavior. They have been spoken to by certain people and im happy to leave it with that. |
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Post by Jesus on Oct 9, 2007 18:04:29 GMT 10
Who stole the scarf? My mate would definately like to have the cops look into his stolen property.
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Post by Jesus on Oct 9, 2007 18:06:04 GMT 10
Considering how many cops there are when we play bling, riot police and everything. There was like no security on the weekend.
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Post by timmyv on Oct 9, 2007 18:26:29 GMT 10
Considering how many cops there are when we play bling, riot police and everything. There was like no security on the weekend. Agreed. I was in melbourne last season wen they played sydney and got the 50K. Police and security are everywhere. We need something like this for our derbies. They have always been fiery games and its starting to leak its way to the fans. Think on sunday was when it caught the police and security off guard. |
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Post by marinersman on Oct 9, 2007 18:43:04 GMT 10
Timmy I know you've been reasonable enough on this forum to date, and in all due respect: 1)I read here yesterday on one of these threads where you scoffed at the security's word to you about being responsible for the group as you had the megaphone. You have now mentioned controlling the majority of the group. That's what security was on about to you on Sunday night, mate. 2)Why did you feel the need for a police escort to the train station? Is it because you posed a threat because of said peckerheads or because you genuinely felt threatened and in genuine fear of your safety? Any other reason other than those and the police have no genuine need to escort you -and yes, I used to work in law enforcement many moons ago. Did you make any approach to their local commander and request an escort or even ask the police assigned to your bay at the Stadium what the exit arrangements were? 3) So you know the people who have brought the game into disrepute then? Tell the FFA who they are mate, for the good of the game. k mate. 1) Im was there as a fan on Sunday, Thats all i ever be at a Jets match a very passionate supporter of my team. In no way can i tell another fan or person what to do. I'm not in the position to and simply wont unless im standing up for myself, family or friends etc.. 2. i dont feel that we need police esort, but i do believe if there was some around. Actions of some people would have been alot different. 3. Again im not in the position to act on other peoples behavior. They have been spoken to by certain people and im happy to leave it with that. Timmy, who has spoken to the goons who lit the scarf? Is it Jets management or just a couple of his mates? I know I've been banging on about it all day, but I really do consider this a very serious incident. If it's not stamped out we could have a catastrophe inside one of our grounds. They should be severely punished, banned for life in my opinion. |
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Post by marinersman on Oct 9, 2007 19:02:22 GMT 10
I just noticed the youtube scarf burning incident has been removed. I'm an idiot, I should have saved it on my computer.
Did anyone happen to save it? It's a very valuable piece of evidence against these guys.
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Post by thesandman on Oct 9, 2007 19:04:06 GMT 10
How did they actually get the scarf?
And did security do anything about it when it was lit? I was just getting there at that stage, so I didn't see anything.
Back to the Telegraph, it's the typical drivel you'd expect from them. We all know that football crowds here are calm compared to many other sports, but our incidents get highlights. The entire weekend has been completely blown out of proportion. Yes, there are several incidents that need to be addressed - but I don't think the weekend was as bad as the media have made it out to be.
MV have pretty much given up on their away fans, so this is a problem that our standard solutions clearly aren't addressing.
FFA needs to do something about the referee attack at Sydney - Sydney FC need to cop a big fine, and they need to put a big effort into finding the perpetrators. Melbourne FC also should cop a fine for vandalising the stadium.
Security was a definite issue on Sunday- I was very surprised that it was pretty much nonexistent around the bays. Things could've easily been a lot worse than they were.
Hopefully the idiots responsible for any trouble on both sides will be appropriately addressed, and thank god the Tele hasn't highlighted any of those incidents.
Nice to see them siding with the Jets though....
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Post by timmyv on Oct 9, 2007 19:39:45 GMT 10
Timmy, who has spoken to the goons who lit the scarf? Is it Jets management or just a couple of his mates? I know I've been banging on about it all day, but I really do consider this a very serious incident. If it's not stamped out we could have a catastrophe inside one of our grounds. They should be severely punished, banned for life in my opinion. im sry but im not allowed to say. Jets are still dealing with the issue i understand. And No, im not trying to defend my club, this is whats going on. I agree they actions like this should be punished. With Ripping flares, fights etc |
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Post by marinersman on Oct 9, 2007 19:47:24 GMT 10
Timmy, who has spoken to the goons who lit the scarf? Is it Jets management or just a couple of his mates? I know I've been banging on about it all day, but I really do consider this a very serious incident. If it's not stamped out we could have a catastrophe inside one of our grounds. They should be severely punished, banned for life in my opinion. im sry but im not allowed to say. Jets are still dealing with the issue i understand. And No, im not trying to defend my club, this is whats going on. I agree they actions like this should be punished. With Ripping flares, fights etc OK, Timmy. You seem like a decent bloke to me. I'm going to PM you about it. |
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Post by curious on Oct 9, 2007 20:19:56 GMT 10
Considering how many cops there are when we play bling, riot police and everything. There was like no security on the weekend. Agreed. I was in melbourne last season wen they played sydney and got the 50K. Police and security are everywhere. We need something like this for our derbies. They have always been fiery games and its starting to leak its way to the fans. Think on sunday was when it caught the police and security off guard. Sorry mate, but this is an excuse given by primary school kids. "why did you do it when you know it's wrong son?"....."because the teacher didn't stop me" Only idiots & criminals need police to prevent them doing what they know is wrong. Half your bunch aren't there to watch & support a football team. They are there to get pissed & cause trouble protected by a mob. |
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Post by travellingman on Oct 9, 2007 21:01:33 GMT 10
theyw ere very noisy at the station and using foul language, many people standing by waiting for the trains had worried looks on their faces, not a pleasant way to end the noght. Is this whta they want to set as a n example?
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Post by ~Floss~ on Oct 9, 2007 21:14:04 GMT 10
Stepping up security / police presence may help reduce some of these serious incidents, but there'll surely be more hassles for fans who let a swear-word slip into a chant or stop in the aisles for a chat, or something minor like that. (or tossing an empty cup in the air)
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Post by timmyv on Oct 9, 2007 22:03:17 GMT 10
Sorry mate, but this is an excuse given by primary school kids. "why did you do it when you know it's wrong son?"....."because the teacher didn't stop me" Only idiots & criminals need police to prevent them doing what they know is wrong. Half your bunch aren't there to watch & support a football team. They are there to get pissed & cause trouble protected by a mob. No way is that true. Yes some group have some peckerheads within them that arent always there for the game, but saying that its half of us is a farking joke. If there was a larger numbers of police/security around alot, if not all peoples actions would be alot better. Im not trying to stick up for some of the peoples actions as i believe it did get way out of hand. But im in no position to tell someone what to do. IF you see a police man driving past you on the road, you make sure your doing the right thing. This would be the same a football match. i know we are rival fans, but we are still human. |
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Post by Fish on Oct 9, 2007 22:21:14 GMT 10
Tim I dont think you need to worry about a low level of Policing at our ground from here on.
My opinion is this,yes we are all passionate supporters and travel to many games to show it.I have and never will use that as an excuse to carry on like a f***ing moron and to use the derby as an excuse PLEASE.I disagree in point to your comment about more Police leading to better behaviour,heres an idea, show some maturity and drop the hard ass Ultra crap its f***ing old boys.
It probably is unjust to mass you all in the same boat mate but weve had that for 3 years now so get used to it.
As the unofficial supporters group of our team we take pride in representing them at games and feel priviliged to do so.It is a privilige not a right and behaviour ,not only like last night but in general will always be reported negatively.The game eeked its way through this type of crap 10 years ago and we all have the opportunity to fix it.
Ive been to Edensor Park and the like in the dark days mate and the Squadron as well as the Marinators were nowhere near in comparison to those nut cases.
I think its pretty simple.
Show support , show respect , if you dont like behaving like a human being stay the f*** away and let those who are the right to enjoy the game.
I think your stepping up for the Squadron in the right manner mate and all the best with it.
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